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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 17:33:29 +0200
From: Claus Lisberg <clisberg@po*.te*.dk*>
To: "J.T. Barker" <captjt@mi*.co*>
CC: "Gerald.McDonald@mc*.co*" <Gerald.McDonald@mc*.co*>,
     techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: FW: BODY COUNT - SCORE CARD TO FOLLOW
J.T. Barker wrote:

> Capt. Gerry
> This is one post that I think most(if not all)Captains will agree with,also
> I would like to add when you leave the boat you are on your own.But as
> being divers ourself we cannot allow a person to leave the boat unless we
> beleive he can do the dive.This doesnot mean we are scuba/tech police

Then what does it mean? You're trying to hinder someone from diving. What you
believe is utterly irrelevant - if you felt that the diver was not adequately
trained, you should not have taken him onboard!

Naturally you don't want to see people hurt, and since you yourself is a diver
you know what dangers lurks below. But it's non sequitur, besides the point.

> .It is
> up to the diver to get the training and skills before he gets to us or be
> under instructor care.There are always divers that seem to slip through the
> cracks and gets a card that he should not have,this makes our job even
> harder.

Your job is not to ensure that people are adequately trained; your job is get
divers to a destination and support them. One could argue that your job is to
make sure that poorly trained divers don't use your boat, though.

> That card and false log book are sometimes all we have to go by.

And it should be enough.

> The bottom line is, our job is to get a diver to and from the dive site and
> should a diver injure theirself we are trained in first aid,cpr,and should
> be trained in Oxygen first aid for dive accidents.
> Capt.J.T.

Yup. Agree.

It's a shame that everyone is so concerned about liability. Maybe your justice
system needs to be changed to avoid ridiculous suits. Adding a little law
requiring the loser to pay a good amount of the trial cost would take care of
the worst suits. It appears to me as if a minority of Americans *insist* on
having personal freedom *without* having personal responsibility, to the grief
of the rest of the people.

Get me out, get me home and some ordinary first aid treatment/radio call for
help is all I require. It'd be ridiculous to hold the captain responsible for a
risk I've chosen to accept.

<snip rest>
--
Claus Lisberg,
Founder of PSWEH (Poor Students With Expensive Hobbies)
Nirfur prophet #1, a.a atheist #1116
"A casual stroll through an asylum will show that faith proves nothing." - F.
Nietzsche



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