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I agree with you 100%, Tony. After all, even instructors are only human, and cannot be on two places at the same time. In this incident I feel that Peter Schultz did the right thing. He intervened to aid an obviously distressed diver, and then returned to his primary responsibility, his students. It is not uncommon to have a student panic in such a situation (witnessing of an accident) and when someone would have panicked, he was there to sort them out. In retrospect , perhaps he should have aborted the teaching class dive , and accompany the ascent of Ray, Dave and the unconscious victim, along with the rest of his class. That way, the second descent when struggling with the regulator, might have been avoided . Greetings, Adri Haine You wrote: < Ray while not wishing to take sides I would like to make one observation. It seems to me that much of the time now instructors are put in a situation where they just can't win. Had one of Peter's students (the divers who had effectively contracted him to train them and look out for their safety) had a problem and perished due to lack of supervison I'm sure the entire community would have crucified him for leaving his students. On the other hand he's now being criticized for not staying with you during your obviously very severe and traumatic chain of events. Which course of action would have been best? Who can say when in these situations we have to make snap decisions. I personally believe that an instructor has an absolute responsibility to the students in his care be they open water or trimix students and that opinion has seemingly been endorsed by many in the technical diving commumity of late but are we now to say that this is so except in certain circumstances? Again, not taking sides, just my 10p worth Tony Phillips RLatulip@ao*.co* wrote: > In a message dated 7/5/1998 11:38:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time, dlv@ga*.ne* > writes: > > > This is really too bad. I was really hoping we'd have a good example to talk > > about for a while, instead of more of the same. > > When I called a number of the Boynton beach dive people, I found some > > reluctance to discuss particulars in this case. > > I on the other hand have no problem in discussing the particulars of this dive > with anybody that cares to discuss it. > > On June 9th 1996 around 12:30 Arielle and I descended to the deck (170') of > the SkyCliff. We were on air (okay no blasting that was then this is now... > back then it was common to teach Tech Nitrox with air dives to 180'). There > was 70' + visibility and minimal current. We okayed and then entered one of > the hatches on the deck. We were moving along just fine with myself in the > lead and Arielle about 5-7' behind me. Suddenly I was flashed the emergency > signal that we use when cave diving, I turned and reached Arielle who was now > floating on the ceiling of the wreck with no mask on, her regulator out and > unconscious. A cable had become entangled on her isolator valve and in the > attempt to turn to remove it she somehow banged her head and was knocked > unconscious. I immediately placed her regulator in her mouth and while holding > it there made an exit of the wreck to a hatch on my right hand side. As soon > as we were out of the wreck I placed her against the bulkhead and tried to > keep her breathing. At this point another diver Dave Rosenthal saw the > situation and attempted to place his backup mask on her face but had problems > doing so because she was in spasms. Another diver peter Schultz who was > teaching a tri-mix class came over and removed the cable that was still > wrapped around her manifold and then went back to his class. In the meantime > I was attempting to work with Arielle and realized that she was drowning. > Continuing to hold the reg in her mouth I began to ascend using her wings. We > started a very rapid ascent which I tried to control. At about 100' while > holding on to her and working the inflator I lost control of her reg. While > attempting to get the reg back in her mouth we fell back to 170'. Turning her > around I realized that she was basically drowned (it was just like the scene > from the movie "The Abyss".) It was then that I did an all out ascent with > her riding her to about 70' (Dave Rozenthal followed me up). At 70' I let her > go as I was having trouble keeping my lungs empty at the rate we were going > (later determined to be 156' per minute we were also beta testing the > Commander Nitrox at the time). I followed her up and came underneath her and > saw the divemaster jump in and grab her. Knowing that she was with the > support team I dropped and did a quick 5min deco with Dave Rosenthal standing > by the whole time. > > At this time I ascending to the boat that was right over my head and while > climbing on board yelled at them because they were not performing CPR. The > divemaster then said that she was breathing on her own but still unconscious, > I then yelled for oxygen which they were not applying. I was handed a DAN kit > and I attempted to work on her with that demand mask and soon realized that it > was getting me no-where. At this point I yelled for the AL 80 that was full of > oxygen and stuck the reg in her mouth and pinched her nose while holding the > purge button. After about a minute she came too so I cut off her wet suit. At > this time the lifeguards showed up in their Zodiac and both her and I were > placed on oxygen and taken to shore. She was flown via Trauma Hawk to St. > Mary's hospital and I was taken via ambulance. At the emergency room she was > treated for drowning and we were both given a chamber ride. My chest at this > time hurt (felt like I had broken ribs) which I assume was from the rapid > ascent I did to get her up. We both spent the night in the hospital. Lynn > Simmons (Capt. of the SplashDown) brought Arielle a change of her own clothes > and stayed most of the night at the hospital and then came back in the morning > to drive us home. > > Later when Peter Schultz was asked why he didn't assist further he made the > statement to both mine and Arielle's face that when he saw her after we had > dropped back to 170' that she basically looked dead to him. He was not her > instructor on this dive nor her buddy but he was in a position to provide much > needed help had he chosen to do so. > > Likely causes deemed to be excess narcosis leading to an over reaction on her > part when her manifold became entangled to the point that she may have > panicked and hit her head hard enough to be knocked unconscious (in fact she > had a large contusion over her right eye). This is a guess as she only > remembers up to the point that her manifold became entangled. > > Things to learn from this accident. > > 1. Don't dive deep on air. > > 2. When faced with a situation stay calm relax and solve the problem (don't > panic). > > 3. All divers in the vacinity should ensure that the diver in trouble reaches > the surface (none of us can breath water). > > 4. You must have a good support crew (boat or cave surface team). > > 5. Always apply oxygen immediately (don't rely on the DAN kit demand mask for > an unconscious diver). Have a scuba tank filled with oxygen with a great > working regulator attached. > > 6. Maintain a good fitness program. > > 7. Last but most important don't dive in the vacinity of divers who are > unwilling to help. > > For the curious we are both very fit and actively exercise, the certifications > at the time of the accident were as follows. > > Myself... I.A.N.T.D. Technical Divemaster, I.A.N.T.D. Technical Nitrox, > I.A.N.T.D. Full Cave, I.A.N.T.D. Deep Air, P.A.D.I. Rescue Diver. > > Arielle... I.A.N.T.D. Technical Nitrox, I.A.N.T.D. Deep Air, P.A.D.I. Rescue > Diver, I.A.N.T.D. Overhead Environment. > > P.S. We were married on the aniversary of the accident on a beautiful mountain > in Colorado. She loves cave diving but still gets uneasy on certain ocean > dives. > > I hope this answers all your questions. As to why you might have closed lips > from the Boynton area perhaps its because Peter Schultz almost exclusively > uses the Splashdown for his training dives. > > Ray LaTulippe -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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