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In a message dated 98-07-05 13:37:29 EDT, you write: snip << This actually ties in with the earful I got from Robert Carmichael on Friday, after I spent a few posts on painting Tom Mount and Derrick in the light I felt others should see them in. Robert is concerned that our ability to really learn from these dive accidients, is becoming impaired by both the backdrop of legal or civil liability ( people are afraid to say anything untill after a trial or suit, meanwhile, no lessons can be learned from the errors made but not disclosed ) ; and the other issue was more of a spiritual kind of thing.... .....So far the only spirituality we have on the tech list, is the insistence some of us have that if Mount trains someone, sooner or later they are likly to exist only as a 'spirit" :-) Now I have fun writing this, and George enjoys each wide open opportunity he gets to point to another Tom Mount stupidity, but the problem is, we are ruining the fabric of common interest, and we are not doing anything to foster group adhesion. We have this festering sore we like to keep picking on----but instead of picking on it, we are making it worse ( i.e., the new double 112 configuration minimum as one such potential result ) . Obviously neither I nor Robert is going to ask George to "suck up" to Tom. I don't have any plans of doing this either. But maybe we can find a way to discuss a tragic dive accident, without forgetting about the need for group adhesion we have, if we ever want technical diving to gain better consensus on proceedures, configurations, and general safety. >>snip Unbelievable! First you and the other Irvine Croonies spend months bashing everyone to make way for your new agency. Then when you realize your gonna either get sued for libel, or worse have a fatality of your own one day, You try to make nice. Don't belive it folks, and show em that there is a right way and a wrong way to do things by boycotting "goo" -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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