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From: "Dan Volker" <dlv@ga*.ne*>
To: <divetek@oc*.co*>
Cc: "Tech List" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>, "'cavers'" <cavers@ge*.co*>
Subject: Re: Moral Question????
Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 21:30:16 -0400




>Dan,
>You have flipped out. Your instructor was probably a lot like Derek or any
>other.

No Way. ZERO similarity.


 >Do you want to teach.

No . Its not what I want out of diving.
But, if someone  was buddied to me, you can believe I would be with them,
helping them, if they were in trouble.  If my buddy was signalling me they
were out of deco gas, my reg would be in their mouth before they finished
the signal.  If I saw  a buddy heading down, during our ascent and deco
stops, I'd be on him/her so fast they would never be able to hit bottom.
Ask George if I can out-swim a sinking body---I can out swim a gavin
scooter. Why? Because I train. T-R-A-I-N....  That's part of the kind of
diving we do.  And that's another reason I have  no sympathy for Derrick.
He talked the talk, but clearly did not train for the job.


If so, given the same scenario you would also
>be dead too from trying to fight a 2 kt current while traveling the
distance
>to make a find in 10-20' vis at 260', and recover it, lift it, and live.

Jim, this is the biggest BS I have heard yet.  At 40 feet, the current would
have stopped pulling on either of them after dropping about another 30
feet---through the 150 foot vis that they admitted in the entire upper water
collumn, right down to near the bottom.  The few seconds of drift in the
current would cause insignificant horizontal separation, as they would have
both been in the same current. Jesus this is a bullshit statement!  Current
was NOT an issue on her potential rescue as she sank.  On the bottom there
was only the tiniest of currents---at least by palm Beach standards---if
Derrick or his guys told you the current was big---they need remedial fin
swimming 101 and freedive fins, or they need to buy Gavoin Scooters.  As for
surviving, Jim, we use an invention known as a "PRESSURE GUAGE'. It allows
us to stay down untill a minimal amount of gas is left in the tanks---but we
are alerted to this by the guage---by just looking at it.  Derrick could
have spent considerable time at depth, and headed up abruptly, on getting
low on gas.  But he opted not to try.   You have already told me you would
have gone down in the same situation. Tom Mount would have gone down in the
same situation. Anyone I know I have ever had as a dive buddy would have.
Except of course, none of us would have let it get that far, since we would
have been buddy breathing her from the moment of her initial signalling
about being out of gas.  Do not compare Derrick to any of us, and do not
compare him to even yourself---as your reputation and ability is in sharp
contrast to his.  Damage control is over Jim.  Jane's dead. Its time for you
to  start futhering the future of the sport, by eliminating scenarios like
this in the future. Its time to "dump" the garbage.  Put him where he
belongs, and shut the lid before the stink gets out and starts to stick to
your clothes!!!
Dan Volker



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