Dan
I also know how serious it is to be a lynch mob and hang a man without a
fair trial.
At least regardless of the outcome all aspects will have been reviewed by a
unbiased jury so to speak
I guess you would have us put his head on a block take an ax and chop it off
or do as you hinted you would like to do and beat hell out of him, without
ever providing due process and review by his peers. Why waste time on an
overall fact finding mission when your mind is already made up. The reason
for this procedure is to limit me or anyone else from being able to take
that exact approach

Seems there have been groups throughout history that practiced this type of
justice and killed millions of people just because they felt like it, Well
two things one is my power is controlled by documents such as the QA manual
and two even if they were not I support a system of justice that requires a
fair and unbiased review of events. I may have my prejudices on some of the
issues in this event but that is why it is not left in my hands alone to
deal with. Like it or not it is a fair procedure and a just one.

The instructor is not found guilty or not guilty without due process, the
fact that on OW dives another instructor must be present(in charge) assures
the safety of the students if a instructor is negligent and it also allows
for more in water evaluation of the instructors skill level and dive
planning capability as the students were trained up to this point by that
instructor and are being evaluated by a different instructor. It also does
not discredit the instructor and his repore with his students while an
investigation is on going. What Dan do you feel is so wrong with this
process. Opps never mind we know the answer everything, You would rather
just take him out and shoot him and then see if any other material developed
that may have suggested you did not need to shoot him
Tom
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Volker <dlv@ga*.ne*>
To: Tom Mount <TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*>; kirvine@sa*.ne*
<kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Cc: 'cavers' <cavers@ge*.co*>; techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>; Ocean
Diving Inc. <divetek@oc*.co*>; Derek McNulty <scubascl@ga*.ne*>
Date: Wednesday, May 20, 1998 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: reply to George


>OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!
>
>Derrick is being allowed to be responsible for the safety of students on a
>HydroAtlantic dive??????
>
>Can ANYBODY figure out the logic or the moral efficacy of this???
>
>Tom. Put your foot down. You CAN NOT ALLOW this, accepted proceedure or
not.
>Do you have ANY idea how this looks??? Do you have any idea how serious
>IANTD will be effected if someone now in Derrick "care" has an accident????
>Do you have ANY idea how the relatives and people close to Jane feel about
>this???
>
>Do I need to book myself on the next trip I hear Derrick is on with
>students??? I may just have to do this. If I show up, you  KNOW what I will
>tell the students......You also know how much I'd love to have Derrick
>attempt to "physically" cause me to leave :-)  Will you let it come to
>this????
>C'mon Tom.  Make an executive decision.
>
>Regards,
>Dan Volker
>
>
>
>>
>>On his teaching over the weekend he assisted Dan Mitchell with Dans OW
PDIC
>>course and he took a tech course to the Hydro with Jim Mims as the
required
>>in water instructor(responsible for the dive and students safety) as a
part
>>of Derricks limited teaching status, while the accident is being
>>investigated.
>>
>>What long tale George, all I did was explain when he became certified as
an
>>instructor with IANTD
>>
>>Again I have not and will not  endorse or condemn Derrick , as that would
>be
>>undermining our QA board whichever stand I would take.  I have compiled
all
>>the info we can discover on the accident and it is being forwarded to the
>QA
>>board.
>>
>>Yes since the accident you and Robert have told me you went to his shop to
>>do whatever .
>>
>>Now this is my last comment on the forum in regard to the accident and it
>is
>>more than I should state. So either accept that we are doing due process
>and
>>that all facts are being reviewed by the QA board and that they will come
>to
>>their conclusion based on all the info available or George you can simply
>>ignore that due process is being done.
>>
>>Either way I'm out of here and I'm getting off all list for the next week
>as
>>I'm out of town all next week teaching a cave course and I certainly will
>>not look at any of these list during that time
>>
>>Tom
>>
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