I am not all knowledgeable of the WKPP but my understanding is they 
primarily a single large group of diver working the project. Granted the 
have many very good divers, techniques, knowledge, etc, and options. Their 
focus is Florida style cave diving and maybe some ocean diving (drift deco, 
etc.).

You speak of the deaths by agencies. Well, the agencies are international 
by nature with many groups and styles throughout the world.

I do not believe that it is in the best interest of the sport and industry, 
to say nothing about the divers, for a single focus group to set 
international standards and judge the whole. They will simply not see or 
understand all the needs or requirements (Mid-Atlantic, North-East, West 
Coast, Caribbean, UK, Japan, etc.).

Medical, Engineering, Technologies, etc. standard are set by committees 
with representations from the various regions to ensure the appropriate 
representation and needs. Let us not turn this into a situation that with 
require a Boston Tea Party. Then Big Brother will step in and legislation 
will occur.

Look at the big picture and all of our needs.

-----Original Message-----
From:	Taylor, John [SMTP:john.taylor@cs*.co*.uk*]
Sent:	Sunday, May 10, 1998 10:12 PM
To:	Technical Diver Mailing List Server
Subject:	RE: IANTD, TDI, you, & a soap box!

Yeah! Let's add up the number of deaths over recent years (measurable 
facts) and see who's got the right to judge!
	>> Is the WKPP right and the others wrong. Let us all not start
something
	>> without equal standard to evaluate against. There are to much
mud throwing
	>> and options expressed without real fact on these lists at
times.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From:	David Widen [SMTP:dwiden@in*.ne*]
> Sent:	Saturday, May 09, 1998 8:21 AM
> To:	'AquaLad@ix*.ne*.co*'; Ken Sallot
> Cc:	Caver's Mailing List; Technical Diver Mailing List Server
> Subject:	RE: IANTD, TDI, you, & a soap box!
>
> If you are going to create this list, what is going to be the
> criteria, who
> will judge, who is qualified to judge.
>
> Watch out for those out there that are self appointed judge, jury, and
>
> executioner.
>
> Is the WKPP right and the others wrong. Let us all not start something
>
> without equal standard to evaluate against. There are to much mud
> throwing
> and options expressed without real fact on these lists at times.
>
> So off the soaps box and did it right for a change. You need the cert
> agencies talking, agree on a national to international standard or
> establish an ANSI, then have the instructors meet it.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	AquaLad@ix*.ne*.co* [SMTP:AquaLad@ix*.ne*.co*]
> Sent:	Saturday, May 09, 1998 6:11 PM
> To:	Ken Sallot
> Cc:	Caver's Mailing List; Technical Diver Mailing List Server
> Subject:	Re: IANTD, TDI, you, & a soap box!
>
> Ken,
>
> Thanks for the response. Instead of listing the bad instructors would
> it
> be possible to list the good ones. Those who have proven there worth
> as
> divers and instructors. I was lucky and found a great one off the
> start,
> but some people are gullible and some instructors are better salesmen
> than divers. these are the dangerous ones.
>
>                                               Alfred
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