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Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 17:53:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: "William M. Smithers" <will@tr*.co*>
Subject: Re: Diver Death in Pompano B. Fl......"Murder on the IANTD Express" ---studen...
To: Raimo4252 <Raimo4252@ao*.co*>
Cc: underwaterapplications@co*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com

On Tue, 5 May 1998, Raimo4252 wrote:

> Randy, I agree with you, but evaluation forms and contacting the agencies does
> not always work. A student of mine recently took a tri-mix class with another
> IANTD instructor, Andy Driver. One day on the boat, Two dives, bingo, tri-mix
> certified. Only one skill completed. The Instructor had three students and no
> vis. One student told me the other two were so bad, he did not understand how
> they got certified. Of course I was not on the boat to confirm any of this,
> but the one customer came to me in the store and told me all about it. I aksed
> him why he did not just take the course with me and/or JD, and he said that
> Andy was $300 cheaper. Go figure. I contacted IANTD three times, nothing ever
> happened. 
> 
>  A few days ago a customer called me on the phone and asked me if I could do
> "referral dives" for basic nitrox. I aksed him who the original instructor
> was, he told me Andy Driver. I told the customer forget it, he needs to take
> the course all over again.
> 
> There must be something we can do.
> 

Bob,

I know Andy well - I've dived with him many times, and I've 
dived with his students many times as well.  Your comments do 
not at all jibe with what I've personally observed.  Andy
is thouroug in his instruction, and more than once I've
seen him make students who weren't up to snuff do *way*
more dives than are required by IANTD standards before
he'll let them pass the course.

As for three students in bad vis - hell, this is New York,
last time I checked - the home of bad vis.  All the better
as a challenging environment, provided the instructor
keeps an eye on the student.

As for one day on the boat - well, yes, two Trimix dives
are the current IANTD requirement.  If you've got the
equipment down and are comfortable doing decompression
diving, trimix itself is pretty trivial.

Andy has alot of integrity, and demonstrates that
consistently while teaching - if there is one
person I know of where charges of sloppy work
and student churning are inappropriate, it's Andy Driver.

And Bob, you *are* universally known as the 
Grand Wah Wah Diver Himself - YOU'RE a great one 
to be touting standards and safety!

-Will

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