On Mon, 4 May 1998, Schmoldt, William C (Bill), NPG NCIO wrote:

> (a terminology I dislike) since 1984, and a former dive center owner and
> new diver counselor, I too think this piece of equipment is foolish.
> The criticisms you are getting are (for the most part) well founded!
> 
> Shame on you Jan!  Double shame on any manufacturers rep, dive center
> owner, or experienced diver who ever recommends or sells this thing!
> Newbies beware!!!
> 
> The 'techdiver' list (which to this point in time has shown me very
> little of value) will have served a very useful purpose if it ridicules
> this abomination into oblivion.
>

OK, wait a minute.  First of all, this thread is getting old.
Secondly, I wish a couple of people out there would resist
the temptation to lemming themselves and actually think this through.

In essence, what is this thing?

From what I can tell (forgetting bottle size - they'll sell
you whatever size bottle you like) it is simply a tank
valve integrated with a first stage, along with an
optional transfill whip, only the whip won't cost you
$100+ like a real transfill whip would.

Last time I checked, this setup has exactly the same
number of failure points as a classic pony w/first and
second stage - one more failure point in the transfill
whip, and one less failure point in the yoke/DIN to 
first stage O-ring (forgetting the tank valve itself).  
If you opt to not have the HP hose connected all the time, 
then you are actually ahead of the game vs. a pony, when it 
comes to failure points.  And as a recreational diver,
you don't have to remember to turn it on before the dive.

So exactly what is all the bitching about?  This is
clearly not a product aimed at technical divers, any
more than the whole "pony" concept is appropriate 
for technical diving.  And as a recreational concept,
it sure as hell beats out the Spare Air as something
that's worthwhile.

-Will



 
> Bill Schmoldt
> 
> 
> >----------
> >From: 	SHP WRK[SMTP:SHPWRK@ao*.co*]
> >Sent: 	Sunday, May 03, 1998 1:14 PM
> >To: 	jantroup@em*.ms*.co*
> >Cc: 	techdiver@aquanaut.com
> >Subject: 	Re: Just when you thought
> >
> >dear mr. troup,
> >
> >i am the person that person that posted this thread to the net.
> >i did so because in my 35 years in the scuba industry, i have never seen a
> >more complicated device do nothing.
> >i have seen it at 3 different scuba shows and talked to you at two.
> >at each of the two you spent 15 mins. telling me how great this device is.
> >you almost made it sound like the "burning bush" told you to make and sell
> >it.
> >bull.
> >if you want to design and make your toys go ahead, make them and use them for
> >YOURSELF.
> >
> >DONT PEDDLE SNAKE OIL TO THE UNSUSPECTING NEOPHITE.
> >see, the reason we here on t/d are beating you up is simple.
> >WE DO NOT (hopefully) FALL INTO THE NEOPHITE CATAGORY.
> >thus, through logical deduction, we have arrive to the conclusion.
> >
> >YOUR DEVICE IS:
> >WORTHLESS
> >DANGEROUS
> >SELF SERVING
> >ACTUALLY FUNNY(to me)
> >
> >and on top of all,
> >the number of hoses border on pure MOCKERY.
> >this is my 4th post in greater than 4 years on this list,
> >so, to carify to you, list maint. is NOT my job.
> >my job is SPEC'g SCUBA EQUIP for mission related tasks.
> >this i do for a living and only this.
> >i'm not a doctor turned scuba diver turned designer /engineer.
> >do not take this post harshly, just take that junk off the market, b/4 some
> >young
> >newwbe loses his life proving we were right.
> >
> >sorry list for the long post.wont happen again.
> >
> >shkwrk [(w/30cf pony and 1 hose)((short))]
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