Tom,

I think your protein power diet falls under the "excessively high 
category". If it works for you, great, but I don't see it as a safe 
healthy balanced diet. Any diet that forces your body to maintain a 
state of ketosis is bad. This amount of protein needed will vary from 
one person to another, but can readily be measured by the use of 
"ketostix".

There's your answer. 

You originally asked me to cite one source to prove that excessive 
protein is bad. I've cited five to date. 

I asked you to cite clinical sources for the "excessive carbohydrate 
even when exercising like a maniac causing weight gain" comment you 
made, you cited "personal experience". 

I asked you to cite clinical sources for the "blood levels normal" 
from eating high protein diets, and you quote the p.r. section of the 
diet book "protein power" (tell me, do they talk about the kidney 
problems of being on this diet in that book as well?). 

I have answered your questions, you haven't answered a single 
one of mine.

For the record, I'm not against protein, I think it's an important 
part of a well balanced diet. However, I do not believe that protein 
based ketogenic diets (such as Atkins and "Protein Power", which 
limit your carbohydrate intake to less then 10%) are safe. I have 
stated this position all along and I still stand behind it.

If a person is trying to loose weight and stay in shape they should 
exercise regularly and eat a well balanced diet. 

Have a great easter,

Ken


> From:          "Tom Mount" <TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*>
> To:            "Ken Sallot" <ken@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*>
> Cc:            <cavers@ww*.ge*.co*>,
>                <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Subject:       Re: Fridays quote (4/10/98)
> Date:          Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:15:10 -0400

> Ken
> I simply do not care any more one way or the other. To date you have not
> even responded to my question about What do you consider to be hi protein?
> I'm trying to get three new workbooks and one new text published and i find
> myself being negligent in them in order to get in a pissing contest naming
> papers.
> 
> You guys continue, I will do the diet that works for me and hopefully each
> one who is concerned will seek a system that works for them
> out of here
> tom
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Sallot <ken@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*>
> To: Ken Sallot <ken@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*>; Tom Mount
> <TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*>
> Cc: cavers@ww*.ge*.co* <cavers@ww*.ge*.co*>; techdiver@aquanaut.com
> <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Date: Friday, April 10, 1998 12:50 PM
> Subject: Re: Fridays quote (4/10/98)
> 
> 
> Tom,
> 
> Were these studies sent to other medical journals, besides a book,
> for peer review of other nutritionists? I thought we originally
> agreed not to include the literature found in books like "Atkins",
> "Protein Power" and "the Zone" (I'm also keeping out literature found
> in other books advocating vegetarian, or high carbo diets).
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ken
> 
> > From:          "Tom Mount" <TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*>
> > To:            "Ken Sallot" <ken@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*>
> > Cc:            <cavers@ww*.ge*.co*>,
> >                <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> > Subject:       Re: Fridays quote (4/10/98)
> > Date:          Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:50:37 -0400
> 
> > ken
> > refer TOT HE BOOK the POWER PROTEIN PLAN BY DRS. EADES, IT IS FULL OF
> > REFERENCES AND EXAMPLES IN THEIR PRIVATE PRACTICE TREATING OBESITY, HBO,
> > DIABETES ETC
> > IT SHOULD MORE THAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS
> > They have a newsletter also
> > contact is
> > Drs. Eades
> > Colorado Center for Metabolic Medicine
> > 7490 Clubhouse Rd. Suite 103-t
> > Boulder Co. 80301
> > TOM
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ken Sallot <ken@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*>
> > To: tom.mount@wo*.at*.ne* <tom.mount@wo*.at*.ne*>
> > Cc: cavers@ww*.ge*.co* <cavers@ww*.ge*.co*>; techdiver@aquanaut.com
> > <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> > Date: Friday, April 10, 1998 8:03 AM
> > Subject: Fridays quote (4/10/98)
> >
> >
> > article "Diet and Disease", magazine Food Monitor, May-June 1983, p.
> > 24, Campbell, T.C.
> >
> > "A strong correlation between dietary protein intake and cancer of
> > the breast, prostate, pancreas and colon".
> >
> > Where's your study documenting high protein diets dropping sugar
> > levels, blood pressure, etc?
> >
> > Ken
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
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