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From: Scaleworks <Scaleworks@ao*.co*>
Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 11:55:37 EST
To: dlv@ga*.ne*, GarlooEnt@ao*.co*
Cc: CAPTZEROOO@ao*.co*, Wahoojan@ao*.co*, Wahoo2001@ao*.co*,
     techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Why Obesity in deep tech diving is a contraindication---gas exchange, revi
In a message dated 98-03-08 11:25:49 EST, dlv@ga*.ne* writes:


Hi Dan,

I didn't know that asking questions and demanding facts regarding broad
sweeping tecnically oriented statements made by you is a waste of time, and
feeble chop busting. This is the status quo for scientific research, publish
your findings and conclusions, and be prepared for the barage of questions and
conflict, be prepared with facts, not opinions. 
People that would like to be educators in any community, even self appointed
educators such as yourself, have a responsibility to the group they are
informing. Should a question be asked, answer with civility and respect, for
that person is seeking knowledge. I did not attack you personally or degrade
you, I questioned your methods, and how you came to your conclusions. I still
question these.
I do care about advancing tec diving, just the right way.
You have been offered a spot on Captain ( a fat man) Zero's boat for your
studies, if you are really serious, this is a great opportunity for you to use
a realistic control group. I will cart my fat ass ( 6'1" 200lbs workout
aerobically 3 times a week) down to his boat if it is ok with him, and I am
sure many others will, for you to get a good cross section to start your
studies with. As Hank said, you will also get to dive some spectacular wrecks.
Remember, you started this thread, should we blindly accept your dogma? Now
you have found a niche for the fat man, 170' limit on air, no helium for them.
Thank god we have you to save us all from ourselves.

Regards,
Fatso
Lardass
Butthead
Stupid
aka Kevin Gannon


<< Its NOT my job to set up all the parameters----I'm only making
suggestions,
 and providing feedback to the research minds.  And this , I might  add, is a
 LOT more than you are doing----it seems all you want to do is waste my time
 trying feebly to bust my chops, and must really care little about advancing
 tech diving.  Or are you saying that you see NO value in finding out what
 how decompression  issues vary by gas exchange rates in each individual??? I
 would hope your petty jealousies could be set aside for a moment, and that
 you could attempt to "contribute" to this inquiry we are proposing.  And if
 you are giving me shit because you are fat, and I hurt your feelings, get
 over it. I targeted no derisive material about obesity at you----whenever I
 have used Obesity + sedentary behavior together, it has been to illustrate a
 strong probability of poor gas exchange----a condition largely ignored by
 tech agencies up to now.  How about being more intellectual about the issue,
 more scientific yourself, instead of being antagonistic to our ideas,
 because they include descriptions you find  demeaning to yourself and
 others.
 
  >How can testing soon occur?
 >This is not just something you jump in the pool and do.
 >Seems to me the cart is always being put before the horse in your
 statements.
 
 We are talking to researchers now.  A team will be put together.   If you
 can fit your fat body on a cart,  chances are not too many horses will pull
 you :)
 (OK, cheap slam, but it was self defense, because you have been attacking me
 in your post  Don't worry, I'll get over it :)
 
 >Most scientists do not publish results and conclusions before the
 experiment.
 
 Perhaps you are not aware of the academic history of the Internet. It gained
 widespread use in academic circles, as a tool to discuss theories and
 concepts, to have them argued by peers, and then to preview findings in,
 prior to final publishing of a paper.
 What is your problem?????
 
 >I am not arguing the merits of fitness as it relates to diving, just your
 >methodology.
 
 Butthead..., I am not supposed to have methodology at this point in the
 process. That will be part of the actual research process, which OBVIOUSLY
 has not yet started.  How dense are you???
 
 I would love to see your study be done, but in a proffessional
 >unbiased scientific manner.
 
 It will be.
 
 >
 >Please factor in age in your studies, as I am not getting any younger.
 
 And probably no thinner either :)
 
 
 >Best regards,
 >Kevin Gannon
 
 Regards,
 Dan Volker
 
 
 
 
 >>
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