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You wrote: >---------- >De: Raimo4252 >Para: ; ; ; ; >Cc: ; ; >Asunto: Re: tragic techicialdiving >Fecha: Mi=E9rcoles 4 de Marzo de 1998 21:10 > >Sender: owner-techdiver@aquanaut.com >Received: from bighorn.terra.net (bighorn.terra.net [199.103.128.2]) > by dub-img-3.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/2.10) with ESMTP id PAA23606; > Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:10:39 -0500 (EST) >Received: (mail@lo*) > by bighorn.terra.net (8.8.6/jr3.9) for > id OAA10284; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:34:21 -0500 >Precedence: bulk >Errors-To: owner-techdiver@aquanaut.com >Received: from bighorn.terra.net (root@lo*) > by bighorn.terra.net (8.8.6/jr3.9) with EXEC for techdiver > id MAA01155; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:34:46 -0500 >Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (imo25.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.153]) > by bighorn.terra.net (8.8.6/jr3.8) with ESMTP for <techdiver@aquanaut.c= om> > id MAA01147; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:34:45 -0500 >Received: from Raimo4252@ao*.co* > by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 8PCEa26882; > Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:32:33 -0500 (EST) >From: Raimo4252 <Raimo4252@ao*.co*> >Message-ID: <f4958d74.34fd9033@ao*.co*> >Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:32:33 EST >To: Wahoo2001@ao*.co*, zimmmt@au*.al*.co*, phreatic@ju*.co*, > techdiver@aquanaut.com, CAPTZEROOO@ao*.co* >Cc: Wahoojan@ao*.co*, GarlooEnt@ao*.co*, JS1SUBAQUA@ao*.co* >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Subject: Re: tragic techicialdiving >Content-type: text/plain; charset=3DUS-ASCII >Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit >X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 > ><In a message dated 98-03-04 12:01:15 EST, Wahoo2001 writes: > ><< Dive boat operators are always at the mercy of the lawyers. I have be= en an >expert wittness in several diving deaths where the diver has died diving= >underwater under there own care custody and control, and the boat, capta= in and >crew has been suied. We have alway won, but we are being suied and that = cost >money, time, stress. The divers know there responability sign waivers g= et >trained etc. the family and loved ones want someone to pay, they beleive= if >you can aford a nice boat you have insurance and someone had to be wrong= and >it couldnt be the husbad or son or daughter, it had to be the captain, c= rew >and boat owner. > The last case I worked on waas settled for 100,000, the mother sued the= boat >owner, captain and crew member that recovered the body saying the crew m= ember >killed him because of the way he brough the none breathing diver to the >surface. > some details, experience diver, mixed his own nitrox (39%) depth 135 f= sw >started with 3500 psi ended with 1800 psi checked mix still 39% total ti= me in >the water 57 minutes found on the bottom with his regulator out of his m= outh >at 135 feet brought to the anchor line by another diver, brought up by = the >mate, ontly to have the boat, captain and crew member suied for wrongful= >death. > The coast Guard licences us as tranporters the family and loved ones vi= ew us >and the responsable party no matter what goes wrong.. Its called DEEP po= ckets. >captain steve bielenda >> > >And then your customers get pissed off when you have rules, check for >logbooks, c-cards, or refuse to take them on certain dives. Go Figure. > >It's simple. Boat operators such as yourself should only be liable for t= he >care and custody of divers/passengers while there feet are firmly plante= d on >the deck of your boat, period. > >Safe diving, Raimo >-- The case you describe gives me food for thought; first I'll make a quck = metric conversion :-).... 135 feet are roughly 41 metres, which are (again) roughly 5.1 bar or Ata.= If I understand well, he was breathing 39% oxygen, that would give him = a pO2 of 1.989 bar, or if you prefer roughly 2.0 bar.. A pO2 of 2.0 = bar on open circuit...no chance of N2 offloading softening the pO2 as = could happen in a closed circuit O2 rebreather. I'm afraid that we can all guess what happened. His mouthpiece being = our of his mouth seems to confirm our suspicions. A series of questions come to my mind... can anyone answer them? When Steve Bidenda says he was experienced, did he mean he was = experienced in air diving or in nitrox diving? What was his level of = experience and/or certification (if any)? Was he planning to go that = deep on that mix or was it an accident? Was his BC-Wings operating prope= rly? Was he aware of the O2 percentage he had in his tank/s ? Had he = analized the O2 contents after blending/before using? Were the Tank/s = properly labled with the mix's contents? What could be the reason behind the diver in question's diving to that = depth with that mix? Regards Conrad Daubanton Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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