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Subject: Re: Tragic technicaldiving
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com (techdiver)
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 16:42:11 -0500 (EST)
From: zimmmt@au*.al*.co* (Mike Zimmerman)
> over half a dozen 6 packs with your fat friends. You don't have the "right"
> to ruin our chances to dive where we want to dive.

That's right, stop messing up Dan's diving plans.  He has a right to
dive where he wants, but you don't.

> Even if you are an obese slob, someone out there is family to you, and its
> wrong for you to inflict  emotional injury on them, with your  untimely
> demise. Some may even be counting on you for their future, and your
> irresponsible entrance into a sport you are unfit for, that will place you
> at exponentially more risk than it will a highly fit diver, is just plain
> wrong. Do you have "the right" to destroy your family???Do you have the
> "right" to make your wife a widow and your kids fatherless??? Stop being so
> damn self absorbed

So we cannot participate in any "risk" activity because we "owe" it to 
everyone ELSE not to have anything happen to us that might upset them? 

who is being self absorbed?  I guess I'd rather respect my family 
members by letting them choose to live their life and do the things they
want to do, rather than asking them to chain themselves to no-risk
activites just so I won't have to deal with unpleasantness in my life.

"do anything fun at camp today kids?"

"No, dad, we spent the entire time being safe, huddled in our cabins.  
 Johnny next door fell in the lake and almost drowned which upset his
 parents a lot, but we're not like Johnny, we care about our parents."
 
Yes, given the choice between someone dear living a safe but boring
life(just to spare me any grief), and getting seriously hurt doing 
something they love and thrive on, I have to say I'd regretfully wish them
well and hope their choice to do that activity proved worthwile to them.
It is not for me to force my assessment upon them of their risk.
I'd rather them be free than chained to me by guilt.
 
So you must be single Dan, with no family, how else can you justify your
dives to the ledges at 200' that you talk about so often?   Lotta people
out there who would classify a 200' dive as high on the "risky" scale.
WHY ARE YOU FREE FROM BEING RESTRICTED BY THEIR JUDGEMENT, BUT FEEL
FREE TO TRY TO IMPOSE YOURS ON OTHERS ?

This isn't about whether activities are risky or not, or if certain
people should do them or not, its about you thinking its ok to impose
your judgement upon them and trying to defend that stance.

Mike
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