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In a message dated 98-03-04 10:22:51 EST, kklop@cl*.co* writes:
<< Hi, Raimo!
>>I"m sorry to drag something up from the past, but I'm curious.>>
Not a problem. Unlike some, at least you have decency to ask rather than to
form an opinion on which you have no solid foundation. I've chosen to respond
to your e-mail both to you and the techdiver list to set the record straight.
>>As I recall, you wrote an article a while back about a dive deep on air.
At that time, you took a _lot_ of heat on tech diver. Shortly after that,
unfortunately, I had to leave the list.>>
I never wrote an article. (you are of coures referring to the Wah Wah article
published by AquaCorps (Mike Menduno). That article was written by someone I
never heard of nor spoke to. I did speak to M.M. privately, as he was somewhat
a friend of mine. He had questions about what went on in the Bahamas. Had I
known his true agenda, I would have given him a written article myself so that
the facts would be facts, as opposed to talking with him. Weeks later, I was
faxed a copy of the "Wah Wah" article prior to it being published, asking for
my permission to allow it to run. I told MM it was inaccurate, and he could
not publish it without inaccuracies being corrected. I told M.M. when I had
time, I would be happy to send him an article. It's the media, what do you
expect. He published it anyway, sending me and advance copy of the issue with
a letter in it stating that he decided to publish it anyway, that it would
"save lives".
Here are some facts about that dive:
1) Brett Gilliam, Mitch Skaggs nor Joe Odom NEVER SOLICITED OR PROMOTED anyone
to do any dives deep on air. They just did them, and so did I. Ask WKPP member
Armantrout-he was with me, he was my dive buddy that whole trip.
2) I did not promote deep air then, nor do I now. I did, however, learn a lot
about diving, diving deep on air. Call it the explorer in me, or in anyone. We
all have it, just at different levels. I acted on it. That's me. Did I set a
bad example?? That could obviously be debated forever.
>>I rejoined the tech diver list yesterday and saw the message quoted below
where you state that you're against deep air. Did something happen between
then and now to change your beliefs or have I misremembered the incident a
year or two ago.>>
No, my beliefs are the same. Diving deep on air is dangerous and stupid when
other gases/techniques are available. But what is deep on air?? Has it been
clearly defined?? I think that that is still a gray area. When diving in
Bonaire, would you dive a wreck at 180fsw on air because mix is not available,
or would you forgoe the dive?? Is a truly experienced, 1500 plus dives to
200fsw on air, low vis "cold water wreck diver" more dangerous on air in warm
clear water at lets say 180fsw, then a warm water, newly certified tri-mix
diver on mix with a total of 150 dives under his belt?? Perhaps senarios such
as this is what makes it difficult for agencies like ANDI, IANTD and TDI, to
have a set of standards that is approved by everyone. I'd like to hear from
others on this.
>>Again, my apologies for dragging up something that may be... painful (Being
flamed by some of the personalities here can be an experience akin to
standing on a fire-ant hill...), but I'm curious.>>
And if you wish to ignore this request, that's fine too ::grin::.>>
-- Kevin -- >>
I don't care about the flaming. I'll take that over the ant hill anyday.Those
that flame shows more about themselves than they know. Ask me a question,
I'll answer. You may not like what I say, but then we are all entitled to our
opinions. Too bad you can't always express them without being tramped.
Safe diving, Raimo
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