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From: Raimo4252 <Raimo4252@ao*.co*>
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:29:14 EST
To: Robert.Lockard@nc*.na*.mi*, jbbennett2@ju*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Unsafe "tech" agencies
In a message dated 98-03-04 09:01:30 EST, Robert.Lockard@nc*.na*.mi*
writes:

<<      
      1.  What "Concrete" information is out there that says TDI, or IAND 
      will loose there insurance?  Statements like "xyz" will loose 
      insurance are only inflammatory.  >>

I do not believe there is any. As I have stated before, I think that defending
tech diving would be easier than rec. diving. And I totally agree with you,
inflammatory statements lead discussion nowhere.
      
    >>  2.  If there is a person teaching outside of there agencies standards,
      let the agency know.  I can just about guarantee the problem would be 
      corrected.  Have proof in your hands when you do.  Don't just say, so 
      and so is a bad boy.>>

This is what we would expect of the agencies, but it does not always happen.
Again you are right here, just saying so and so is a bad boy serves no
purpose, proof is needed. Sometimes that proof can only be provided by the
student who took the course knowing  that upon completion of the course, they
did not perform to the standards of the course. But the same student will also
more than likely NOT report the instructor. I have personally seen this
several times, and unfortunately very recently. I even contacted the agency,
but I never even got a returned phone call. Case dismissed.

      
     >> 3.  If someone is not physically fit to tech dive, sit the person 
      down, and come up with a plan so that person can get in shape.  Hay, 
      meet the person at the park to jog, or bike ride.  To just say you are 
      too 'insert insult here' to tech dive and leave.  That person will 
      most likely say a few choice words about you and find some one else to 
      teach them.  With a plan, and quantitative goals you will be surprised 
      what will happen.  You are not only helping that person get in shape, 
      you a setting a good example for other instructors.>>

Agreed.
      
     >> 4.  If there is an instructor who is out of shape to tech dive, then 
      see item 3. >>

Agreed again.
      
      >>5.  I have heard a few statements regarding a list of good 
      instructors, bad instructors.  Let me ask you, who defines good and 
      who defines bad?  Are you talking about standards? Then see item 2.  >>

My statement, but I am not in any position to create such a list. Others have
sent me e-mails wanting to post such a list since I have mentioned it, and
maybe we should consider doing it. But like you said, who defines good and
bad. We need the agencys to better police their instructor base. 

Safe diving, Raimo
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