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From: KybrSose <KybrSose@ao*.co*>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 23:34:59 EST
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: re: tragic technical diving
List members,

 What is the real question here?

  is it who is fit to dive ? fit to tech dive?

  or 

 is it who gets to make that decision?

  A lot of things have been said but I dont think anyone wants to or can
remove the utlimate decision from the individual. 

  People could always convert old fire exginuishers or homebuild their own
rebreathers.  If they want to dive they will find a way to.

 Training helps to mitigate the potential risk of diving. But it does not and
never will eliminate it. 

   Anyone can get hurt on almost any dive.

  If you limit fat guys from X fsw or Y minutes at Z depth, you do nothing.

   Except prove your own hypocrisy because these limits never exclude their
proponents, just some "other " group that needs "protecting".

    If you teach someone how to do something dangerous, they may hurt
themselves.

  It is up to the injured person to assume the risk and responsibility of
their own action.  

    To do less that this, is to be without honor.

    But if an individual presents herself before you and says" i can do it"
you should take them at their word. If they initally show a lack of skill
train them as best you can. Tell them why they should not do a thing.

   But if you dont want to be sued for teaching a diver, dont teach. 

   As far as the agency goes there will always be someone willing to take the
risk.

   Hell there are a million laws against killing people even sick ones. But
Kevorkian is on what number 26 now? 

    There are few check cashing places in poor neighbor hoods cause they get
robbed right? but there are those few.

   As far fitness to dive goes I'd say there is no absolute fit person.  Why??

    Because  we do not know a thing about decompression. It is all theory.

    What works, works. But Why? we have very little clue.

    Dont believe me?? ask the experts.  

    Have you ever really thought about what that means?? 

   Each and every person who ever put on tanks and went on a checkout was
gambling their very life on a carefully hedged bet.

    And every time you put on a tank you take that risk.

  Take Mr. Volker's views to their ultimate "logical" conclusion and does
anyone ever get the right to go underwater?

    These South Florida guys make a lot of sense about a lot of things, but on
this I must agree to disagree. And if that makes me a "stroke" so be it.    

  If you read this far, I thank you for your time. 

  Cheers,

   Al Marvelli    aka     KybrSose@ao*.co*     
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