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From: "Dan Volker" <dlv@ga*.ne*>
To: "Steve Lindblom" <s_lindblom@co*.co*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Divers Supply, IANTD, Tom Mount and tragic technicaldiving -Reply
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 19:59:24 -0500


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Lindblom <s_lindblom@co*.co*>
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Date: Tuesday, February 24, 1998 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: Divers Supply, IANTD, Tom Mount and tragic
technicaldiving -Reply



>Dan wrote:
>
>>The sooner someone starts
>>>>testing this as mandatory medical screening,  the sooner we will save
the
>>>>lives of divers who have been IANTD or TDI certified to do something
they
>>>>are ABSOLUTELY UNFIT for, and which puts them at EXTREME RISK.
>
>Are you really advocating madatory medical screening for all divers?
>
>Apart from the philosphical issues - I believe an individual has the right
>to make dumb decisions and go to hell any way they please - the cost,
>multiplied by the number of divers, of such screening would be exhorbitant,
>and totally out of  proportion to number of lives saved. As much as you
>seem to find unfit divers repugnant, they simply are not dying in
>quantities sufficient to justify such draconian extremes.
>
>Most unfit divers I know are well aware of the added risks they face, but
>choose to accept them. I figure that's their own damn business, and not
>mine, the government's - or yours.
>
>

I think ALL  NEW TECH DIVERS should have a mandatory test for a PFO, and
each should have a VO2 max test run. The PFO issue, afflicting 25 to 30% of
the population, clearly needs to be mandatory, and the VO2max test can be
done by a  personal trainer in a gym, and should NOT cost much more than
about $20to $30  in the gyms that would charge for such a test, and could be
done for free in many other gyms. You'd need someone to witness and sign off
on the test score as true and accurate.
I am making NO suggestion about any changes for recreational diving.  Tech
diving may well be on its way to becoming "MASS MARKETED" by dive chains
like Divers Supply. With  its much harsher environment, and far greater
demands on the physiology of each tech diver, without real physical
screening, MANY unfit divers will die.  And several very fit divers may die
trying to save the unfit ones ( as with Claypool, who was fit, and
apparently tried to go back down to save Andre, who was NOT fit.).  You may
feel its the right of an obese diver without aerobic fitness to dive deep,
but IF WE KNOW HIS CHANCES OF DEATH ARE EXPONENTIALLY GREATER than that of a
fit diver, then is it RIGHT to endorse his potentially suicidal choice by
certifying him???And is it right to allow him to be lost to his wife and
children, just because he wanted to "prove" he could do something.  And if
he REALLY wants to tech dive, he CAN train for it, and get his VO2 max high
enough to make him a tech diving candidate. So  I am not trying to make it
impossible for heavy people to dive deep, I'm just trying to ensure their
survival if they want to dive deep----which means they must train for it.
Cycling, swimming, weightlifting, and diet. If they want it, then they will
have it.

Aside from the issue of a family losing a loved one, due to certification to
engage in an activity they were clearly not fit to be engaged in, the deaths
mass marketing of tech diving will cause in the next decade, if screening is
not mandated, will be staggering. Already, many of the best dive operations
in South Florida will NOT take tech divers out to the really awesome reefs
in 200 feet of water, or some of the really cool wrecks down deep----this is
because they have come to label ALL TECH DIVING as DANGEROUS. They think any
dive to 200 feet is unsafe, because so many have died already. This attitude
is in existence, because so many unsafe tech divers are out there, and
because of  a lack of screening over the last 5 years----but with mass
marketing in the next five, the deaths would become epidemic. The truth is
that the tech dives on these reefs and wrecks could be incredibly free from
accidents of any kind, if the proper screening and training and proceedures
were applied to all tech divers. The longer we leave it as it is today, the
closer we will get to finding it impossible to get a charter operator to
take you out on a deep dive.

Regards,
Dan.


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