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From: "Tony Matheis" <tonym510@fl*.co*>
To: "Tech Diver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 20:01:35 -0500
Subject: Re: Fw: Pony Bottles
Why are you diving yoke instead of Din?  Wouldn't that eliminate the 
tank-o-ring as a failure point?????


On 26 Jan 98 at 20:45, Nanci LeVake wrote:

> Date:          Mon, 26 Jan 1998 20:45:58 -0600
> To:            Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>,
>                "Ben Greenhouse" <b.greenhouse@ut*.ca*>
> From:          Nanci LeVake <nlevake@pi*.co*>
> Subject:       Re: Fw: Pony Bottles
> Cc:            "Tech Diver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>

> 
> >Any of the above fails you shut of valve of offending reg. You still have 
> >access to all your air in both tanks. Independent doubles? Pony and in 
> >deco? you are screwed.
> 
> Independent doubles???????  
> 
> You have two choices, manifolded doubles with or without an isolator. 
> The isolator only solves one problem, but it's a big one.  Total loss of
> your gas supply caused by a tank O-ring failure.  _If_ you're never
> going to dive solo, or get separated from your buddy, you theoretically
> don't need the isolator.  
> 
> Nanci
> 
> 
> >Problem with valve? Shut off isolator. If you are following rule of 
> >thirds you will survive. No isolator on your manifold? you are screwed.
> >
> >A proper manifold made with Orings is probably the most reliable piece of 
> >gear you own. Extra failure point is BS. To short yourself by not getting 
> >an isolator would be a stroke move.
> >
> >A cage? Is this a troll? Ben, I don't know about you, but I don't go 
> >careening into walls and bulkheads, smashing my tanks into everything in 
> >sight. I realize that this is SOP for some divers, but, for some reason, 
> >those ranks seem to be thinning out.
> >
> >  Jim
> >
> >
> >
> >On 1/26/98 2:34 PM Ben Greenhouse wrote:
> >
> >>Hey Folks:
> >>
> >>    I was wondering what the current thought is on isolator valves.  I 
> >>thought
> >>that the general consensus was that they were just an extra failure point. 
> >> The
> >>reasoning (as I remember it) was that the only time you would need an 
> >>isolator
> >>valve is in the event of a neck o-ring failure on one of your valves.  But 
> >>the
> >>isolator valve in itself contributed more of a liability since it was more
> >>likely to fail than a neck ring.  Or in the event of a collision which might
> >>rupture a neck ring, the isolator valve was likely to be damaged as well, 
> >>unless
> >>you had a cage, in which case you wouldn't need the isolator anyways.  So 
> >>what's
> >>the thought now?
> >>
> >>Ben
> >
> >
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Cheers

Tony
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