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Kevin, good points, and we need the Easops to keep taking the other side of every irrational piece of nonsese in order to more glaringly make the case that prevents newer players from falling into these traps. Maybe this guy Easop can take a guess at why Divers Supply does not want me to see the gear, even though they know I have all the information that the police have, if giant steel stages bottles, bondage wings, and other peorsonal prefrence crap is so "safe" , and if there are no horrifying violations of sanity in these setups. Personally, I thing it is just the student's gear they are worried about, but then the survivor said that the student was out of back gas, breathing nitrox from a stage. Why was the "instructor" not sharing gas? Personal preference? Did he have a long hose as per standards ( Espop, you mroon, long hose is a requirement for this, so ski[p the preference on this one) . Did he maybe only have gas in one of his back tanks as we see he pulled on another dive boat. according to several witnesses? ( Esop, you can tell me the virtues of this practice now .) Easop , on a personal note, you don't have a clue , buddy. Tell me what method of backup works better than ours. Go ahead, give us all a good laugh. Kevin Connell wrote: > > I hear this BS all the time. > > 1) "Hogarthian just isn't redundant enough to make me comfortable" > If convolution makes you comfortable, then you obviously aren't committed > to diving is a safe manner, and haven't thought out the real risk factors > in diving. Hence Rule #1. > > 2) "A cave diving rig isn't suitable/applicable in open water" > Hmmm... seems to work fine for me, and a whole bunch of other people, even > some those who are doing some "real" open water diving. > > All these points have been covered before, and I challenge ANYONE to > rationally argue against the hogarthian system without using the word > "personal", "preference", or "comfort" etc. > > At 01:56 PM 1/18/98 -0500, tae@pe*.ne* wrote: > >> OR......MAYBE..........Other divers have different parameters by which > they dive. Maybe they require 'better' > >backups than a hogarthian 'bailout'. Maybe the conditions are different > >than those in FL. And maybe, they take > >what you say and try it out; and evaluate it for themselves, under their > >dive conditions. That sounds > >smartest. > > > >There was a just a diver on here a little while back who said something > >like he was thinking about a cave > >diving class to get ready for some ice diving. Where do you think he got > >that idea? Cave diving solutions are > >not the solutions to every situation in diving. > > -------------------------------------------------- > Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*> > > Northwest Labor Systems > http://www.nwls.com > Bellingham, WA > > -------------------------------------------------- -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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