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Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 19:22:24 -0500
From: "G. Irvine" <gmirvine@sa*.ne*>
Organization: Woodville Karst Plain Project
To: "Thomas A. Easop" <tae@pe*.ne*>
CC: Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*>, techdiver@aquanaut.com,
     cavers@ww*.ge*.co*
Subject: Re: Added info re three missing in WPB /
     "Kick an  IANTD instructor in the head--the li
     ves you save will be his students !"
Easop, I see you fell that I am unfairly accusing you of farm animal
stupdity. OK, let's be fair here - go ahead and tell us what "personal
preference" practices are "safe", and we can work with that. 

You make wispy little gereralizatioins with no substance, and expect a
pat on the back. Let's hear the specifics, and leave out the really
stupid stuff, please. I just do not have time for my usual
self-amusement. Make it quick and let's get it over with.



Thomas A. Easop wrote:
> 
> G. Irvine wrote:
> >
> > Kevin, good points, and we need the Easops to keep taking the other side
> > of every irrational piece of nonsese in order to more glaringly make the
> > case that prevents newer players from falling into these traps.
> >
> > Maybe this guy Easop can take a guess at why Divers Supply does not want
> > me to see the gear, even though they know I have all the information
> > that the police have, if giant steel stages bottles, bondage wings, and
> > other peorsonal prefrence crap is so "safe" , and if there are no
> > horrifying violations of sanity in these setups.
> 
> I don't make guesses.
> 
> >  Personally, I thing it is just the student's gear they are worried
> > about, but then the survivor said that the student was out of back gas,
> > breathing nitrox from a stage. Why was the "instructor" not sharing gas?
> > Personal preference? Did he have a long hose as per standards ( Espop,
> > you mroon, long hose is a requirement for this, so ski[p the preference
> > on this one) .
> 
> When did I ever say it wasn't??? I said iantd instructors allow personal
prefferences that are safe; I've yet
> to see one teach a student that a long hose is optional, or let a strudent
dive without one. I can't tell  you
> why the instructor didn't share gas. You don't know for sure they didn't.
When you find the bodies and video
> them we will see if a long hose has been deployed, if there is one indeed.
> 
> >  Did he maybe only have gas in one of his back tanks as we see he pulled
> > on another dive boat. according to several witnesses? ( Esop, you can
> > tell me the virtues of this practice now .)
> 
> When did I post advocating this idea, or its virtues? As we have discussed
privately, I dive with
> modifications to the hogarthian system that suit me. You are putting me in a
place beyond farm animal stupid,
> and attributing to me things I have never posted (again.)
> 
> > Easop , on a personal note, you don't have a clue , buddy. Tell me what
> > method of backup works better than ours. Go ahead, give us all a good
> > laugh.
> 
> I have and will, in another post.
> 
> Tom
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