Agreed.

I've had my scooter for quite awhile now and the only problem I ever 
had with it was explaining to my wife that it was life support and 
needed.

Ken

> From:          "pete wallace" <hpetew@gt*.ne*>
> To:            "Greg Zambeck" <gzambeck@us*.ne*>, <gmirvine@sa*.ne*>
> Cc:            <wwm@sa*.ne*>, "Diver69500" <Diver69500@ao*.co*>,
>                <techdiver@aquanaut.com>, <cavers@ww*.ge*.co*>
> Subject:       Re: Georges comments on myself being a moron
> Date:          Tue, 13 Jan 1998 20:14:32 -0500

> Greg,
> I for one, am becoming tired of this scooter bullshit, not to mention your
> usual grammatical ineptitude.
> 
> I have had one of George's scooters for over a year, have put some serious
> dives on it and have never had the slightest problem.
> I suspect you and your buddies may have some other agenda than just the
> scooters so why don't you just come to the point and leave the scooters
> alone?
> 
> Mine works fine, everyone else I know who has one of these reports their
> scooters works fine. We are more than pleased with the support provided by
> George. If I were to have a problem, I believe George would stand behind his
> product.
> 
> These machines are quality. Witness the record dives as evidence. If you
> can, why don't you show us some records set on other scooters?
> 
> Perhaps you know of some scooters that are infallible, if you do, I hope you
> would share this with the list.
> 
> Greg, it is my humble belief you would not know quality if it were to bite
> you on the ass.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Greg Zambeck <gzambeck@us*.ne*>
> To: gmirvine@sa*.ne* <gmirvine@sa*.ne*>
> Cc: wwm@sa*.ne* <wwm@sa*.ne*>; Diver69500 <Diver69500@ao*.co*>;
> techdiver@aquanaut.com <techdiver@aquanaut.com>; cavers@ww*.ge*.co*
> <cavers@ww*.ge*.co*>
> Date: Tuesday, January 13, 1998 5:12 PM
> Subject: Re: Georges comments on myself being a moron
> 
> 
> >George
> >
> >Have you ever though about making a product right the first time instead of
> >having to tell us how fast you can fix it the second.  Sound like you don't
> >have much of a Quality assurance program for your product, it's assembly or
> >it's performance with motors burning out in 30 minutes.
> >
> >Instead of beating away on you computer keyboard why don't you set-up a
> >computerized test fixture to make sure the product has been throughly
> >tested before the customer does it for you.
> >
> >When the customer is telling us they only work good for 90% of the time
> >something is missing from the design, the product testing or its rated
> >performance.
> >
> >But then this seems to be the way you do everything, wait till it breaks or
> >gets bent before you start fixing it.
> >
> >Greg Z.
> >
> >----------
> >> From: G. Irvine <gmirvine@sa*.ne*>
> >> To: Greg Zambeck <gzambeck@us*.ne*>
> >> Cc: wwm@sa*.ne*; Diver69500 <Diver69500@ao*.co*>;
> >techdiver@aquanaut.com; cavers@ww*.ge*.co*
> >> Subject: Re: Georges comments on myself being a moron
> >> Date: Saturday, January 10, 1998 6:45 PM
> >>
> >> Greg, this is just so they can get repair practice. You charge for dive
> >> instruction, and why should somebody have to pay for something that they
> >> have to get CORRECTED as soon as they get it?
> >>
> >> Only a Zambeckian Moron, much like yourself, would get on here and say
> >> the things you say, like the "comforatable on air" comment. Greg, if you
> >> are a blithering idiot at one atmosphere, what happens on air to you at
> >> a few atmospheres, other than you like the buzz?
> >>
> >> I feel real comfortable on air, but it makes me like you - a dumb ass,
> >> and like you , I don't know it.
> >>
> >> Anyone who showed up at one of our dives looking like you , talking like
> >> you , acting like you , or thinking like you would first get laughed at,
> >> and then shown the door, and that is before any of our hard core even
> >> got a shot at you.
> >>
> >> Greg Zambeck wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Why should a diver spend that much money for a product that has to be
> >> > reparied as soon as you by it?
> >> >
> >> > ----------
> >> > > From: Bill Mee <wwm@sa*.ne*>
> >> > > To: Diver69500 <Diver69500@ao*.co*>
> >> > > Cc: gmirvine@sa*.ne*; techdiver@aquanaut.com; cavers@ww*.ge*.co*
> >> > > Subject: Re: Georges comments on myself trying to sell a scooter
> >> > > Date: Monday, January 05, 1998 7:52 PM
> >> > >
> >> > > Charles,
> >> > >
> >> > > Goerge is completely correct. Farallons are marginally reliable and
> >> > > impractical for any serious socalled "technical" diving. You have
> >> > > obviously concluded this yourself and this is why you are selling the
> >> > > damn thing.  BTW, since when is Peter Vicker's a "legitimate"
> >company?
> >> > >
> >> > > Your childish comments about Jason and Tom's scooters constructed by
> >us
> >> > > are uninformed rubbish. Your socalled "technical" diving buddies
> >> > > couldn't even repair a "complex device" like a  reed switch and
> >returned
> >> > > the entire scooter which George immediately repaired and returned to
> >> > > them.  As for the length of the scooters being different this is
> >utter
> >> > > nonsense. The bodies are precisely cut and turned on a CNC lathe and
> >are
> >> > > very accurate.  You are mistakenly referring to the internal bulkhead
> >> > > spacing on the batteries which only serves to prove that you have no
> >> > > idea of what you are talking about and is yet another reason why you
> >> > > should call the make a wish foundation to remove your Farallon
> >> > > immediately.
> >> > >
> >> > > The original motor is manufactured by Oceanic (Mako) and they do not
> >> > > warrant this motor; however George does accept full responsiblity for
> >> > > the motor and replaces or repairs, at his often considerable expense
> >any
> >> > > problem motors. George personally dismantles, tests and reassembles
> >the
> >> > > Mako motors upon receiving them from the factory.  These shunt wound
> >> > > fractional horsepower DC electric motors are not high technology
> >devices
> >> > > and like anything else are subject to failure.  George personally
> >> > > warrants these devices despite the fact that the manufacturer accepts
> >no
> >> > > responsibility. Any WKPP scooter which experiences a problem or has
> >been
> >> > > damaged in such cataclysmic events as a car accident have been
> >repaired
> >> > > by George at no charge.  I can assure you that the failure modes on a
> >> > > WKPP scooter are significantly less than anything else out there.
> >> > >
> >> > > As for the buoyancy, Jason and Tom were informed that the ballasting
> >of
> >> > > the scooters must be changed for usage in salt water. An addtional 2
> >lbs
> >> > > of weight must be added to the unit to neutralize it for usage in
> >> > > seawater, although a highly technical concept such as water density
> >> > > might elude certain individuals. With respect to the speed these
> >systems
> >> > > are not designed to be extremely fast (150 - 200 fpm), but rather
> >very
> >> > > reliable. All of the WKPPs extreme exposure long range cave dives
> >have
> >> > > been accomplished with these scooters and nobody is still in the
> >cave.
> >> > >
> >> > > You comments are incoherent, ill advised and only demonstrate why you
> >> > > should probably sell all of your dive gear and take up golf.
> >> > >
> >> > > Regards,
> >> > >
> >> > > Bill Mee
> 
> 
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