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From: "Ken Sallot" <ken@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*>
Organization: CIRCA, University of Florida
To: cavers@ge*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 10:43:31 EST
Subject: Scooter proficiency requirements at Ginnie (and elsewhere)

The topic of new requirements for DPV use at Ginnie Springs has come
up a lot on this list lately. I spent some time talking with some of
the folks at Ginnie this morning to try and get some straight answers
out about this so that we can put an end to the bullshit and
speculation. I've also been told that there will probably be a public
statement made by some of the staff at Ginnie on this list shortly.

On January 1, 1998 divers will need to prove one of two things to use
a DPV at Ginnie Springs.

1) Cave Diver certification PRIOR to January 1, 1997 AND proof of 100
   cave dives at the cave diver level. Proof can be provided by one   
   of three methods; the NSS-CDS Abe Davis award, the NACD Wakulla 
   Award (bronze or higher), or your logbook. As has been previously 
   stated on this list, you currently DO need to be a member of the 
   NSS-CDS to apply for the Abe Davis award, but you do not need to 
   be a member of the NACD to apply for the Wakulla Bronze award. 
   Both awards cost absolutely nothing (except the membership cost 
   for the Abe Davis). However, if that is not convenient enough for 
   you (i.e. too lazy to fill out the paperwork, have your logbook 
   verified, and mail it in), you can also just bring your logbook 
   and have it verified by the staff at Ginnie Springs.

   This really should not be a big deal considering that many 
   "guided" cave systems have similar requirements in regards to 100 
   cave dives. Examples include Heart, Alachua, Bonnett, Cathedral, 
   etc. Although both the Wakulla Awards and Abe Davis awards are not 
   necessarily proof of cave diving proficiency, they are what is 
   currently accepted as the "standard of proof" for other guided 
   systems. Why should Devils Ear be any different?

2) Scooter certification through an approved training agency (NSS-CDS,
   NACD or equivilent). I imagine there will be some people out there 
   who were certified after January 1, 1997 who have 100+ cave dives, 
   and a lot of scooter experience, but are not "Scooter certified". 
   I imagine that the staff at Ginnie Springs will make a case by 
   case approval/denial of scooter priviledges based on individual 
   diver experience, experience of members in the dive team, and 
   logbook experience. If in doubt, bring your logbook.

There are now also restrictions as to where you can take and where you
can't take a scooter in the Devils Ear cave. You can not take a DPV in
the following places: Double Lines, Syphon tunnel, Sweets Surprise
(aka Split Tunnel), River Intrusion tunnel, Mainland, anywhere past
the Hinkel restriction.

Now a lot of people are opposed to this new rule for one reason or
another. I've heard things from "it's not realistic because Abe Davis
and Wakulla awards are not proof of proficiency", to "it's just a ploy
for the instructors to make more money". This is not the case.

I dive at Devils Ear quite a bit. It's 20 minutes from my house, so I
typically find myself there a couple of times a month on weeknights.
It's a fairly simple thing for me to pop off work early and head over
and get in a nice 60 minute dive and still be home in time to keep the
wife happy. I guess I'm lucky that way.

When I first got certified as a cave diver, I spent a lot of time
diving Devils Ear. I was fascinated by how many different tunnels and
passages I could find. The cave actually branches out with over six
miles of passage, which can keep most of us pretty happy for quite
awhile.

Unfortunately, even in just the past couple of years, there has been a
noticeable amount of damage done to the cave system at Ginnie Springs.
Some sections, which really should not have scooters in them at all,
find themselves abused on a regular basis by a few "experts". 

The "Double Lines" used to be one of my favorite places to swim in,
now it makes me cry when I go back there and see how much abuse it has
taken. A lot of this abuse can be directly attributed to the misuse of
DPV's in this system.

There is NO REASON you should find "scooter donuts" in the middle of
the double lines, but guess what, they're there. There are major
sections of the double lines that are broken off by poor technique
that, once again, can be attributed to scootering in this delicate
section of cave.

I have seen first hand divers trying to act like "Rambo" in devils
ear, and dropping negatively buoyant scooters on delicate structures.
You can see the scooter "racing tracks" where people just plow through
the clay without any attention to detail. I have been left in zero
visibility in the Hilliard tunnel by someone coming at me from a
different direction on a full sized aquazepp.

Part of the reason I enjoy cave diving is looking at the beauty of
some of these systems. Unfortunately, Devils Ear is being beaten
really badly by poor technique. 

The accident that nearly cost a diver his life this past summer just
drove home the point that there needs to be some level of control. Too
many divers are trying to go too far, too fast. And, although the Abe
Davis/Wakulla Awards are not "proficiency exams", they're better then
nothing.

Personally, I am in favor of the new policy. I'm not in favor of it
simply because I'm being grandfathered in. I'm in favor of it because
there are still sections of that cave which are pretty that have not
suffered a beating yet, and if they do not have some form of control
I'm afraid these sections will wind up looking like the double lines.

For those of you that are complaining about this policy, you should
think about a couple of things. Ginnie Springs profits more from
campers, tubers, openwater divers, and cavern divers then they do cave
divers. They could just shut down cave diving altogether, or not allow
scooters at all, but they haven't. They've given everyone an
opportunity to still scooter in the cave, provided you have met the
appropriate requirements. Also, it's not scootering that's the
problem, and the folks at Ginnie Springs realize that. It's a few
people who are scootering that shouldn't be that ARE the problem. 

Recently I was asked to participate in an "instructor re-evaluation".
I complained that I shouldn't have to since I was already an
instructor and hadn't done anything wrong. The person who asked me to
participate in the evaluation said, "If you deserve to be an
instructor then you shouldn't have anything to worry about", so I was
there. 

I have to ask those of you that are complaining about this policy, do
you really deserve to be scootering there? Maybe that's what the real
source of the complaint is?

Ken Sallot



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