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Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 02:55:07 -0800 (PST)
To: divetek@we*.ch* (Roberto Bagnasco), techdiver@aquanaut.com
From: Jeremy Downs <dcrco@jp*.ne*>
Subject: Re: PADI standards .....
Roberto-
I usually stay pretty cool in these discussions but you sir are totally
clueless. If you overload a new diving student with too much irrelevent
information to his level he will forget the important skills he needs to
learn at that time. (You wouldn't teach a new pilot how to fly a F-18 first
so why would diving be any different.) Before you open your ignorent mouth
again maybe you should really try to understand the real issues at hand or
are you some kind of TDI stooge just trying to twist the facts?? 

BTW you listed a fairly new PADI number (in fact your over 700,000 past
where their actual professional numbers are being issued at) did you copy
the last half of your OW cert number to try and make it look like a
professional member number? (if your going to try to pass a fake then at try
to make it look real) 

Obviously your just a simple minded open water diver who probably never
truely paid attention or studied fully in your classes and I would also
venture to guess from your ignorent and bitter remarks that you have not
actually underwent any professional level training to actually understand
why the programs are set up the way they are or did you simply fail your
exams?? (which are actually very simple) If I'm wrong about your training
level & member number and you are actually a PADI member then there is
really no excuse for your ignorence other than stupidity.

The initial programs are meant to be relativly simple to understand based on
a well researched and proven educational concept, it has noting to do with
time or economics (as it is there is no profit in teaching a PADI OW class,
most of us teach for our own enjoyment of introducing others to our love).

Really man, get a clue! You really sound like a joke!


At 06:54 AM 12/9/97 +0100, Roberto Bagnasco wrote:
>"PADI standards does not promote deep air diving..."
>I heard that many times, PADI and most of the recreational agency do not
>inform divers of what they are actually doing, PADI says something like "We
>do no decompression dives, etc" and do not give the students any
>information of what they should do, if they want to go deeper, or stay
>there longer.
>I believe that this is the only way you can keep a OW course simple and
>easy, and cheap enough, so that they can certify Joe Diver in a few days.
>Hiding the information is a criminal act, and if you make money teaching
>PADI OW courses, you are responsible for it.
>
>Go down at 130 feet, and try to simulate an out of air situation with the
>average recreational diver (or even an instructor for that matter), and see
>what happens...
>
>PS: You know what to do with your PADI standards, do yoy?
>
>Roberto
>PADI NO. 913792
>"Am I I going to loose my card? Or is some fat arrogant Course Director
>going to PADIfy me again?"
>
>
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