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This must bee a faked mail, i cant believe the stupidity of this guy. And you are an Instructor!!!!!. You should bee put out of business immediately. Any responsible organization should recall your teaching status.You are trying hard to commit suicide and that's your choice but keep your stupidity for your self, don't post your crap to the list. People like you destroy the reputation of technical diving. This takes the price of being by far the most stupid thing i have ever read. It is so stupid that even in my wildest dreams i could not compose anything nearly as utterly stupid. Silvestr Peknik wrote: > >From David Skoumal to Lawrence Orchard > > My answer and my own commentary about dive to depth lll meters > / Blue Hole Dahab Sinai Egypt /. > At first who were actress of this dive.First- my friend Ammar Keylani > - Instructor TDI, ANDI a Extended range Instructor and Trimix diver > and me- David Skoumal- I am not tourist from Russia ,but from Czech > republic two StarsCMAS Instructor, Cave diver with about 10 years > experiences in cave diving/ explorations in caves in Cuba and Sardegna , > with long distances explorations-more than 2 kilometers , also with > many deep dives to 100 m with air also in caves with extremely > conditions ,diving under ice in air temperature to minus 20 deg.Celsius, > solo diving in the caves, diving like supporter with Michael Pauwels in > his deepest dive 155 m in Hranicka abyss in Czech republic etc. > Me and Ammar we are general practice medical doctors, for our diving > we use last knowledges from medicine/ for example hydratations with > special antioxydant solutions ,drugs after diving. > This deep dive wasn"t first to deep arround 100 m.For me is it about > 10 years of training against nitrogen narcosis in the dark in the caves .. > I think, that I have more experiences than you my dear Lawrence I dont > know exactly ,what did you see- contact eye to eye, but I think that you > must be really stupid. If you want to write some article, please before is > necessary during diving see with clear brain. Is it true that I use Zeagle > buoyancy , twin 12 l Luxfer div. cylinders, 2 separate Poseidon Jetstream > Regulators.If I looked really uncomfortable during my hanging to Ammar > and his safety deco bag- thats your opinion not my. > Also I use new model of Aladin Pro Uwatec-one on my hand, but also > spare second on console.Also this snorkeller broughts for us spare > deco tank with octopus reg. and hot tea for hydratation during long > decompression.and I knew very well what to do with it. > Thats all of my explanation for you . > > Best regards > David Skoumal, Czech republic. > > ---------- > Od: Lawrence Orchard[SMTP:DiveBase@cl*.ms*.co*] > Odesláno: 6. XII 1997 19:04 > Komu: gmirvine@sa*.ne* > Kopie: TechDiver List > Pøedmìt: RE: Deep air kills two more > > I was on holiday just north of Dahab, staying at The Canyon dive site near the > Blue Hole, the week after the incident. > > As I understood it the two divers were British PADI Divemasters just about to > start their IDC. As it happens the IDC was cancelled on account of their > deaths at the Blue Hole. > > They were on single Aluminium 12 ltr set ups and had been down to 110m. The > bottom of the hole slopes out seaward through a massive arch starting at 60m > to 130m before finally dropping off into the Abyss. > > The Blue Hole must have one of the highest death rates in the world as far as > dive sites go. I stay in the area on average every six months for a week, and > it seems everytime I go there, people have just died either at the Blue Hole > or The Canyon sites. > > Why? > > The reasons are endless, but overall there is a sick culture there, evolved > from Dahab's drug reputation. Young back packers have for years taken in Dahab > on their route round the Middle East to chill out as such. Many of them end up > staying there for months, some never leave... alive. > > Mix in a little SCUBA diving with this and you have the perfect nightmare. I > can only imagine they learn a little diving, experience narcosis and think > this is the way to go once they're board of just smoking pot or whatever. > > There is most definitely a focus on "how deep did you go?". > > After a dive out there everyone always asks us "how deep did you go?" > probably on account of my using twin independent Ali's Hogarth rig AUL light > etc. When I reply with something like 35m they look back at me incredulously > convinced that we must have been further, they just don't get it. > > Now the best bit. Every time we go to stay there we visit the Blue Hole for > one morning only, once you've dived in it the once its pretty boring. However > there is a prettier site just round the corner called "Bells" on account of > some rock formations. Whilst kitting up for the dive one of the PADI > Instructors I know there came over all excited. He proceeded to tell us that > two divers kitting up near us were going to dive to 110m in the Blue Hole. > This is just one week after the two aforementioned deaths! Business as usual I > guess. My friend went on to explain that one of them is a TDI Extended Range > instructor and Trimix diver, the guy he's taking down is a tourist from > Russia. I commented that I assumed they would be using Trimix and had support > plans in place etc. "Oh no, they're doing it on air." I was horrified, but > what could we have done? > > Oh I should mention there is no helicopter service to the pot in this region, > and it takes 2.5 hours from the Blue Hole to the chamber in Sharm El Sheikh by > knackered taxi. > > My diving companion and I went off and made our dive, coming back over the > hole with a little decompression commitment, and encountered these two > carrying out decompression. I've never seen anything like it. The instructor > was hanging at about 9m on his deco bag, the other guy was hanging on to him > looking really uncomfortable, the twin set he had on his back looked like some > cobbled together Zeagle arrangement, his buoyancy didn't look at all right. We > both passed near them and checked they were OK, I remember making eye to eye > contact with the instructor, peoples eyes can look funny through diving masks, > his were glazed as if he where on another planet, something haunts me about > this as I feel like I've looked in the eyes of the grim reaper. My diving > companion was a little closer than me, and later told me he had managed to > read 111m on the Russians old style Aladdin computer. Then to top it all off, > down came a snorkeller with a cylinder and regs flayling everywhere and handed > it to the Russian who looked like he didn't know what to do with it. Ah that's > the support set up then I remember thinking. > > Our computers cleared and we elected to get out the water. We were stunned and > didn't want to be around any more to watch. > > I made some enquiries about this guy, and guess what, apparently he was on the > boat when Rob Palmer died! His name is something like "Amah", apparently he is > Syrian. He has been in Dahab for some months trying to make money buy taking > people deep on air. Most of the responsible dive centre managers have told him > to sling his hook. Shame he couldn't take the initiative and start getting mix > up there as the place needs it. > > Later I spoke to my instructor friend, and he related a conversation he had > had some time ago with this Amah guy. Apparently he talks in riddles as if he > is some kind of monk/guru, about going deep and breaking a theoretical > umbilical cord between yourself and the rest of the world, if you're meant to > come back you will, if you're not you wont! > > Well that's all I know, sorry to go on a bit, but I'm getting fucked off with > people like him ruining it for the likes of me out there and killing those who > maybe don't know any better. > > Best regards > Lawrence > > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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