John, I get a lot of people come up to me asking about diving in our
project, and they always say, "I have deep air" and some other badges.
When they say that, I always want to ask them what they think we would
need that for, but instead I just say nothing, as they have said it all,
and saved me a future accident report. 

 I was really hoping that some of the bigger mouths in the UK and
elsewhere would have been on hand to try their luck with me, but I think
they suspected that they are so wrong that the chances of not looking
like  a complete fool were slim to none.

 It is terribly hard to argue wth a score of 2,000 long range deep mixed
gas cave dives and 6,000 supporting dives with a perfect track record (
the team scorecard since I have been Director of the WKPP) , especially
when the opposition has zero real dives to ther collective names and
nothing but clusters, accidents, and death to show for it, as well as
the proven ability to lie in writing. 

 The dive instructional community needs to know how stupid they look
when one of their students comes to me and says, "I have deep air", or
when one of them shows up looking lile a Chritmas tree full of useless ,
inappropriate crap.

 It was great meeting you and the rest. Now I want to come divng there
and spend more time. 

John Thornton wrote:
> 
> Totally agree with you Ingemar, I know one of the guys who recovered the
> bodies, he tells a harrowing story of the bodies found in each others
> arms at 102m, they could see them from 60m on the bottom etc etc. When
> are people going to listen and start being responsible, I had a guy on
> the phone to me for a course in trimix and his justification for trimix
> was that he had done 100m on air, he is over 50 years old.I suggested
> that he stops and takes up something else.
> Come on you deep air types wise up,mind you you are getting less in
> numbers.
> I didnt notice any of Georges objectors questioning him on his air ideas
> at the do`s conference in Harrogate, it was the only reason I went.
> 
> John
> 
> >Two divers, apparently Instructors died 2 weeks ago in Dahab, Sinai.
> >They were found at between 80 and 100m of depth.
> >The current trend in diving here in Europe seems to be deep Air and much
> >of it, i think is thanks to Brett Gilliam and his so called training
> >agency. Publishing books like deep diving, where if you read it, you get
> >the impression that Trimix is unnecessary trouble and that deep air,  if
> >you are mentally prepared and trained and all that bullshit could be
> >done safely, is very dangerous. And he goes on in magazine articles with
> >public statements like, only a few in the world can handle air at 90m is
> >so stupid that i cant believe my eyes. We have a diving group here in
> >Sweden called "dirty deep divers" that dives to 80m on air and sticks a
> >name tag in the bottom, i mean what is this stupidity coming from.
> >Someone must have a very bad influence on our sport and i think Gilliam
> >has a large part of the blame. You may say that everyone has the right
> >to shoot him self in the head, but promoting this dangerous activity as
> >being safe is extremely irresponsible.
> >
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