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From: "Taylor, John" <john.taylor@cs*.co*.uk*>
To: "'gmirvine@sa*.ne*'" <gmirvine@sa*.ne*>,
     Dennis JR Harding
    
Cc: "'Techdiver List'" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: RE: IN CLOSING: TDI Training Death, 16 April 1997
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 04:19:03 -0000
George,

your second reference today to "combined models".

Would you care to explain?

thanks,

JT

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> -----Original Message-----
> From:	G. Irvine [SMTP:gmirvine@sa*.ne*]
> Sent:	Tuesday, November 25, 1997 8:49 PM
> To:	Dennis JR Harding
> Cc:	'Techdiver List'
> Subject:	Re: IN CLOSING: TDI Training Death, 16 April 1997
> 
> Dennis, get one thing straight, you moron: I always give the
> information
> when asked, but will be the first to tell you to kiss my ass when you
> come to me with a know-it-all attitude and a dead body in your hands.
> Take the coton out of your ears and put it in yoiur big mouth.
> 
> My very short asocitating with TDI was due to Gilliam mailing me
> instructor cards ( which started as a joke by Jess Armentrout, and got
> out of hand). I have not nor will I ever certify anyone for any kind
> of
> diving. It was a short while later that I found out that Gilliam was
> still promoting deep air diving, and that ended the associationn when
> I
> criticized that activity by TDI. 
> 
> My review of Abyss is YEARS old, and at the time I said, "Chirs
> Parrrot
> put his heart and sole into this one", and that still stands. What I
> did
> not say is that ANY deco software in the hands of a blithering idiot,
> like you and your pals, is USELESS. If you read on, wyou wil discover
> that NOEN fo the deco programs provide the correct deco, and one must
> combine models to get to that stage. EVREYONE knows this. 
> 
> My information is still the best in the business, and I bet my life on
> it every time, and so does my team. I will compare out track rcord to
> the rest of the world's anytime, expecially yours and the rest of your
> TDI buddies.
> 
> Dennis JR Harding wrote:
> > 
> > Geroge wrote:
> >         Dennis, you again just plain have to be kidding.
> > 
> > No George, just providing the facts.
> > 
> > You were the one asking Mike Beresford about who was making threats
> >  when he wanted to ask questions.  Well I did respond to Mike's
> message.
> > The problem was the way in which questions were being asked.  All
> knew
> >  it was a TDI training course,  All knew who was/is the TDI director
> in SA -
> >  is this not where questions should have been aimed at in the first
> place.
> > 
> > Well I provided the facts of the actual dive, and questions arised,
> which
> >  I answered.  Arising were more questions and so forth.  Now some
> >  of the answer that were put forward may have been against you
> better
> >  judgement, but I have certainly learned through some of the
> responses
> >  that I good from both Bill and Joel.  More than I can say of you -
> as far
> >  as this subject is concerned.
> > 
> > Yes, we may have f@#$-up, but we have also learned, more so though
> >  the questions and responses that subsequently occured.  As far as
> the
> >  Abyss is concerned, I note a good review by you on the Abyss site,
> or
> >  have you also parted ways with Chris like you have with TDI?  It
> appears
> >  now that Abyss is not the software to use!
> > 
> > We are a very small core of divers in SA that actively dive trimix
> on a regular
> >  basis, if 1 or 2 trimix dives a quater can be called regular.  Then
> again, look
> >  at the price we pay for helium, and the fact that there is no
> proper medical
> >  treatment available - all part of the risk that is taken.
> > Also perceptions of regular and in shape differ.
> > 
> > We all learn from one anothers experiences, if we are prepared to
> share them,
> >  and we have alot to learn from you and your team, but I guess now
> is not the
> >  time or the place and your probably not the right person - maybe
> someone
> >  else will help.
> > 
> > Thank you any way for all your responses.
> > 
> > Dennis.
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