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Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 05:34:23 -0500
From: "G. Irvine" <gmirvine@sa*.ne*>
Organization: Woodville Karst Plain Project
To: "Sean T. Stevenson" <ststev@un*.co*>
CC: Jammer Six <jammer@oz*.ne*>,
     "techdiver@aquanaut.com"
Subject: Re: Pony tanks and stage bottles
Leave enought "tail" at the lower snap to easily get your hand between
the snap and the bottle. Only the top snap needs to bring th bottle
tight to you for streamlining - the back of the bottle needs to be free
to find the slipstream, and it is easier to deal wtih multiple stages
this way.

Sean T. Stevenson wrote:
> 
> This has probably been covered, and my apologies for answering this post with
a delay of several days, but as it was addressed to me I still feel inclined to
throw my two
> cents in.
> 
> The use of stainless steel bolt snaps is suggested because they have a high
resistance to failure.  Not only is stainless a good choice for reason of
corrosion resistance,
> but the opening mechanism itself has a lower probability of being fouled by
debris and suspended particulate than a carabiner, for example.  As well, the
compression
> action of a bolt snap spring produces less non-elastic deformity than the
torsion spring in the carabiners I tried.  In my opinion, carabiners are
unsuitable for this
> application.  If they are non locking, they are an entrapment hazard.  If
they are locking, they take too much time to open in an emergency situation. 
Bolt snaps are quick,
> and fairly low profile so as not to interfere with the manipulation of other
equipment on a D-ring.  I frequently dive in cold water and complete siltout
conditions, and after
> trying a number of options, the SS bolt snap is the only fastener I will
trust my life to.  I have not seen a great variation in size of these snaps,
apart from minor differences
> as the eye size changes, but I use thick gloves and have no problem
manipulating the snaps by touch.  The important thing is the shape and size of
the thumb slide on the
> snap.  Many are available with rounded slides that fingers will tend to slide
over.  After some searching I was able to find some SS bolt snaps with square
thumb slides,
> and these have presented no problem.  There may be more suitable snaps
available.  If you find some, let me know.
> 
> -Sean
> 
> On Tue, 28 Oct 97 13:36:33 -0800, Jammer Six wrote:
> 
> >I re-rigged my 30 foot pony, according to the drawing that Sean Stevenson
> >did for Jeff Bentley.
> >
> >Thanks, Sean.
> >Thanks, Jeff.
> >
> >I appreciate both your efforts.
> >
> >On the first dive, I discovered that the configuration is MUCH easier to
> >use, and I like it.
> >
> >However, the snaps that I used are, apparently, WAY too small. I could
> >barely use them sitting on the beach, let alone with mask and gloves on,
> >under water.
> >
> >So, my question is, what size are you guys using?
> >
> >Other questions I have are:
> >
> >1. Can you use the snaps under water?
> >2. Do you use gloves?
> >3. Can you use the snaps underwater, with one hand?
> >
> >Seems to me that being able to hand off the tank (pony, in my case) to
> >another diver is critical, as well as is doing so with one hand.
> >
> >To that end, I'd like to hear about different clips, and how/why each is
> >being used. I'm looking at stainless steel carribieners, but unless one
> >used the locking versions, seems like they could catch on something. The
> >locking versions solve that problem, but would be harder to use.
> >
> >Particularly, I'm interested in cold water applications, that can be
> >manipulated with one hand, in gloves or three fingered mitts. I'm
> >primarily interested in open water applications, and the differences, if
> >any, between those suitable (and easier to use) for open water, and those
> >for use in an overhead envirement.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >       --Jammer, 1992
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