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Sweetheart, we ( cavers ) don't glue or metal the mouth pieces since we plug the same reg into Scuba Pro FFM if we are feeling a little toxy - not likely to happen on a wreck dive, but just thought you might like to know this. Also, when you say "cavers", you have to distinguish between the annelids and the WKPP. Jim Cobb wrote: > > Yes, I use glue on the hoses/mouthpieces, pain in the ass to get off. > Important to inspect your gear frequently and replace any suspect lines > as you go. > > I hear tell that there are available mini stainless hose clamps used in > the avation industry, some cavers in Fla are using them. I was going to > surf the web and see if I can find a source. > > Jim > > On 10/7/97 12:10 PM CHKBOONE@ao*.co* wrote: > > > > > > >Jim, > > > >In a message dated 97-10-07 11:21:36 EDT, you write: > > > ><< Chuck, I disagree with you. > > > > 1. Zip ties suck, they should not be used for holding together life > > support equipment. Double, triple, whatever it does not matter. To prove > > this to yourself, try the twist test that Peter mentioned, it is an > > eye-opener. > > 2. The alternative is cheaper, easier, and better than zip ties. > > 3. You should never use a metal to metal connection. This split ring > > stuff is bullshit, you know that, Chuck. You've got to be able to cut > > yourself out of a jam. > > > > Go to your dive shop and get a spool of wreck/cave reel line. If they > > don't know what you are talking about, leave that diveshop and never go > > back, go try another one. > > > > Where you would use a zip tie, take some caver line, go around 3 times, > > then tie off by using a square knot with a double twist on the bottom and > > a single on top. Trim the ends off close, then take a cigarette lighter > > and melt them down to the knot into little knobs, the knot will not > > become untied. > > > > Jim >> > > > >================================= > > > >As I said, you have to be careful where you use the split rings because they > >can not be cut away. > > > >>>>>Keep in mind that these can not be cut away if necessary so be mindful of > >where you are using them.<<<< > > > >I have sealed knots by melting them many times. This blob works great for a > >while but I have seen some become brittle and crack or crumble. When this > >happens the knot is so short and so wet that it undoes very easily. The > >best way to secure rope or line is to whip the standing ends down and coat > >the whipping with one of the glues I mentioned. But melting works fine if > >you melt the standig end to the knot and keep tabs on it. > > > >What do you suggest for securing mouthpieces ? This is the only place I > >have ever used zip ties and I back it up with glue. These don't get > >twisted. > >Would love to find an alternative though. > > > >Chuck > >-- > >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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