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Yes, I use glue on the hoses/mouthpieces, pain in the ass to get off. 
Important to inspect your gear frequently and replace any suspect lines 
as you go.

I hear tell that there are available mini stainless hose clamps used in 
the avation industry, some cavers in Fla are using them. I was going to 
surf the web and see if I can find a source.

   Jim

On 10/7/97 12:10 PM CHKBOONE@ao*.co* wrote:

>
>
>Jim,
>
>In a message dated 97-10-07 11:21:36 EDT, you write:
>
><< Chuck, I disagree with you.
> 
> 1. Zip ties suck, they should not be used for holding together life 
> support equipment. Double, triple, whatever it does not matter. To prove 
> this to yourself, try the twist test that Peter mentioned, it is an 
> eye-opener.
> 2. The alternative is cheaper, easier, and better than zip ties.
> 3. You should never use a metal to metal connection. This split ring 
> stuff is bullshit, you know that, Chuck. You've got to be able to cut 
> yourself out of a jam.
> 
> Go to your dive shop and get a spool of wreck/cave reel line. If they 
> don't know what you are talking about, leave that diveshop and never go 
> back, go try another one.
> 
> Where you would use a zip tie, take some caver line, go around 3 times, 
> then tie off by using a square knot with a double twist on the bottom and 
> a single on top. Trim the ends off close, then take a cigarette lighter 
> and melt them down to the knot into little knobs, the knot will not 
> become untied.
> 
>    Jim >>
>
>=================================
>
>As I said, you have to be careful where you use the split rings because they
>can not be cut away.   
>
>>>>>Keep in mind that these can not be cut away if necessary so be mindful of
>where you are using them.<<<<  
>
>I have sealed knots by melting them many times.   This blob works great for a
>while but I have seen some become brittle and crack or crumble.   When this
>happens the knot is so short and so wet that it undoes very easily.   The
>best way to secure rope or line is to whip the standing ends down and coat
>the whipping with one of the glues I mentioned.   But melting works fine if
>you melt the standig end to the knot and keep tabs on it.
>
>What do you suggest for securing mouthpieces ?   This is the only place I
>have ever used zip ties and I back it up with glue.   These don't get
>twisted. 
>Would love to find an alternative though.
>
>Chuck
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