This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------503DF7B4AD8DEAE5AD3101B6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Christopher; I fully agree with you. In Northern Ontario, (Tobermory) there is a hyperbaric chamber in the health clinic that is happy to perform "sport runs", which is exactly what you're talking about. The cost is far from prohibitive, I think it's less than $25.00 Cndn. per diver for a group of 6 or so. Brown, Christopher wrote: > Mr. (or possibly Ms.) Cole wrote: > > >sure i think it would be a better idea to do anything below say 150 on > >trimix but i also want to know what will happen to me and how i should > >handle myself if something happens to me or a member of my team and i have > >to chase him down into the narc zone... > > There is *no safe* way to learn 1st hand the effects of deep air *while in > the water* -- and that includes an in-water situation where your > instructor/buddy is using a non-narcotic mix. While underwater, you're in, > obviously, an unbreathable medium, so if you have a serious problem, you're > within seconds of drowning. A cold sober buddy assistant is still a long > way from being able to save your life. Most rational folks realize this by > now, right? > > However, there is a military model, designed to *safely* address a similar > need (the need being: to experience and appreciate the effects of abnormal > pressures/gas on the body and mind), which has been in place for decades. > Long ago while preparing for a higher-than-recreational-limits jump, I > signed up for a high altitude chamber ride at McDill AFB. A certain number > of civilians per "lift" are accepted, based on need/interest because, after > all, we are paying for these things. > > In these *extremely controlled* chamber simulations, people who may > encounter a low pressure/low oxygen situation because of their work/hobby > are provided the chance to experience the effects, recognize/appreciate > their impairment, and practice what can be done to resolve the problem. > > *Nowhere* do they pretend/advertise/claim that you can *ever* perform > suitably in the abnormal environment. > > Remember -- the reason it's done in a simulator is because *flying an > aircraft* is no time to learn this stuff -- just like *underwater* is no > place to learn what deep air does. > > All participants are required to pass a medical before acceptance -- just a > basic one saying you don't have any pre-existing conditions/traumas that > would jeopardise your safety while going "up" or being blown back "down". > Along the way, you do things like count backwards and forwards, diddle with > simple puzzles, try to write, sing, etc. -- simple tasks that very > effectively illustrate your impairment -- not that you really care at the > time. ;-) > > Fully equipped medicos are attending; in-chamber > instructors/guides/attendants are on an appropriate mix so that they are > functioning optimally; the environment is controlled precisely at all times > and can be changed back to normal almost immediately if a participant > develops a medical problem. > > It seems the military and civilian aviation agencies believe this > experience, and the familiarization/recognition that comes with it, is > worth the time and expense as a *preventative* -- so that you recognize > your impairment and *relieve it immediately* -- the same kind of thinking > which is parallel to the reason many divers give for wanting to take a deep > air course. The problem, as I mentioned to start, is that there's no safe > way for divers to have a similar learning experience underwater. Efforts by > training agencies to do so, while possibly having a noble intent, simply > can't be done entirely safely in the water. > > Maybe some day an agency will come up with such a chamber for simulations > or engage existing facilities to provide this service -- allowing divers to > learn what they need to know about deep air in a controlled (and dry) > situation. Sure as hell would be better than divers doing it on their own, > or "supervised", while underwater. I think it would be a popular > (read:money-making) course; safely satisfy the inquisitive/needful; improve > understanding better than any lecture, textbook, film, or internet spitball > and flame throwing; and be a tremendous service to all divers. Every diver > course would be enhanced by including a simulation and though it would add > to the expense/time, it sure would get the point across. Unfortunately, for > civilian agencies it would add to insurance costs -- something the gov't. > doesn't have to worry about because you can't sue them -- unless someone > tells a dirty joke or makes a pass at you. ;-) > > (Efforts/claims to train divers to function "normally" in an abnormal > narcotic state are total horseshit and are not considered/included in the > above.) > > Christopher A. Brown > The Technical Diving Video Library deepedge.com/TechVid > Phone (US & Can.):606-272-0255; Fax:606-272-7279 > > Life is short -- this is not a rehearsal. > > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. --------------503DF7B4AD8DEAE5AD3101B6 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Ben Greenhouse Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Ben Greenhouse n: Greenhouse;Ben org: University of Toronto email;internet: b.greenhouse@ut*.ca* x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------503DF7B4AD8DEAE5AD3101B6-- -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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