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Subject: Re: A reply from TDI
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 97 14:45:50 -0400
From: Jim Cobb <cobber@mi*.co*>
To: "Adrian Doubleday" <adrian@td*.co*>,
     "Cavers Mailing List" ,
     "Tech Diver"
You know, I'm sick and tired of deep-air teaching, money grubbing, 
worthless, half-assed agencies, like TDI, bitching, whining and moaning 
on these lists.

I am also sick and tired of so-called instructors carrying bogus 
certifications from bogus agencies, like TDI, coming on these lists and 
huffing and blowing the party line, like teaching deep air.

I came to the conclusion years ago that being narced is a major component 
of the popularity of diving. From 60-120 feet or so being narced adds a 
nice, euphoric buzz to the underwater experience. Below that, you are 
really stoned and a hazard to yourself and to your fellow divers. Like 
driving drunk, you can get away with it a certain amount of times. But 
sooner or later, just as sure as Gods Little Green Apples, you are gonna 
fuckup and die.

Now, if you were a money-grubbing, scamming agency how could you make a 
buck off this? Well, lets look at drug pushers. The first sample is free 
(intro to diving), start you off with a little pot (advanced diver). 
Throw a little coke in there to give it an edge (nitrox). Having fun? 
Well, lets snort some dragon! (advanced nitrox) What's the matter? 
Feeling a little shakey? Speeedballll! (Deep Air). What happens if you 
OD? (pick a stiff) Who cares? There's a lot more suckers where you came 
from.

So what does this make TDI and other deep-air pushing agencies? Nothing 
but a bunch of goddamn, stinking, drug pushers. Not only are they selling 
the buzz, they are a bunch of addicts as well, something even slimey drug 
pushers manage to avoid.

   Jim

On 9/25/97 9:05 PM Adrian Doubleday wrote:

>Normally we don't make a practice of wasting time with the rumor mill and
>personal attacks generated by certain well known abusers of the Internet.
>Recently an anonymous message was posted that claimed to have knowledge
>that TDI was being sold under some sort of nefarious scheme. This is
>absolute and total rubbish. there is not one grain of truth to any of this
>nonsense. For any viewers with even a passing familiarity with the most
>notorious abuser of the various tech diving forums, you will quickly
>ascertain the true identity of the person creating this drivel.
>
>TDI is not for sale. The company continues its unprecedented growth and
>expansion. It is now the largest tech training agency in the world with
>offices in 14 countries and over 5000 instructors.
>
>Incidentally, viewers would probably be interested in the most recent issue
>of DeepTech where an article addresses specifically the ethics of the
>Internet abuse and some of its dysfunctional stars. The release of that
>issue corresponds almost exactly with the most recent spate of hate
>postings directed at TDI and its owners.
>
>Unlike the cowards who hide behind anonymous postings, we like to stand in
>the light and speak plainly and loudly when certain jerks try to bully the
>rest of the community.
>
>Don't expect that these types of morons will cease their cowardly attacks.
>Just know in advance that they have raised the practice of pathological
>lying to a new art form.
>
>We've turned the matter over to some experts in computer fraud who will
>ultimately trace the source and hand the material to our attorneys. Then
>let's see what brave characters are unearthed.
>
>TDI is alive and well. Maybe someday we'll make the company public and you
>can all buy in.
>
>Bret Gilliam
>President
>
>Mitch Skaggs
>Vice President
>
>Joe Odom
>Training Director
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