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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 14:04:44 -0400
From: Ben Greenhouse <b.greenhouse@ut*.ca*>
To: Jim Cobb <cobber@mi*.co*>
CC: wwm@sa*.ne*, "James E. Robertson" <nforcer1@ix*.ne*.co*>,
     Tech Diver , Cavers List ,
     George Irvine
Subject: Re: Bent Diver at Whitefish
Gentleman:  I never once questioned your authority, experience, or your facts,
all
I questioned was your professionalism.  It seems my fears have been confirmed...
Ben

Jim Cobb wrote:

> Awwww, geeeze, guys... You're not gonna make me scrape nitrox stickers
> off of old IANTD stage bottles again, are ya? Anything but thaaaaaat...
>
>    Jim
>
> On 9/17/97 5:56 PM Bill Mee wrote:
>
> >Ben,
> >
> >I am very upset.  Apparently, your complaints were reported to Mr.
> >George Irvine through the offices of the "Enforcer".  As you are well
> >aware Mr. Irvine has a very low threshold for miscreancy of this ilk. He
> >is taking the harshest of disciplinary actions against the profane and
> >abusive public behavior of Mr. Cobb. As a result of your report I have
> >been sternly reprimanded as well.
> >
> >He has advised me to immediately draft a letter of apology to all the
> >members of this list as well as personally applogize to the membership
> >of the WKPP and beg them to forgive me for any past or future offenses I
> >may cause while pursuing a vicious campaign against reputed strokery.
> >
> >BTW if I happen to meet you at O'Gillian's Technical Pub I will buy you
> >a round of widow makers.
> >
> >Your severely punished colleague,
> >
> >Bill Mee
> >
> >
> >Ben Greenhouse wrote:
> >>
> >> Sure Bill, but there is a better, and less offensive way to let people know
> >they're
> >> wrong.  But ramming your personal opinion down their throats after they've
> >made it
> >> clear they don't agree and being so rude about it does ABSOLUTELY nothing.
> >>
> >>>George Irvine wrote:
> >>>
> >>>  Ben, I will speak to Cobb and Bill Mee about this problem. Clearly it
> >>> is inaappropriate to have an opinion other that does not mesh with your
> >>> own view, and frankly, I am appalled that either one of these guys would
> >>> be so reckless. This is the whole problem with diving today: we have
> >>> experienced pros like Cobb and Mee butting into the fantasies and
> >>> delusions of people like yourself. I will never undersatnd it.
> >
> >>>   Good post , Ben, keep me informed of the behavior of thse two
> >>> hooligans, and I will do what I can on my end. Give my best to the
> >>> "enforcer", too. Geez, if there is anything I hate more than an opinion
> >>> that diverges from sheer stupidity, it is the same with the facts to
> >>> back it up. The nerve of these guys! Just when you thought it was safe
> >>> to be a complete stroke.        - G
> >
> >> > James,
> >> >
> >> > You have no idea about what you are talking. Cobb is perhaps one of the
> >> > best bs filters we have out there against stupidity, personal
> >> > preferencism, doing it wrongism and all of the general idiocy which
> >> > afflicts socalled "technical diving".  He is a real voice of truth and
> >> > if you missed his recent and very appropriate post on the very real
> >> > problem of being lost offshore you are missing the best that this list
> >> > has to offer. Cobb calls it like it is.  Not only was his recent
> >> > vignette humorous and well written but it highlighted the most serious
> >> > risk in all open water diving.  That of being adrift and alone.  If you
> >> > have never experienced this I suggest you arrange for a trip up to
> >> > Whitefish Point.  Maybe they can arrange a special charter for you.
> >> >
> >> > You are apparently offended by hyperbole and baudy language.  Tell me
> >> > something. Does death offend you?  Are you attracted to roadkills and
> >> > other highway carnage? From your glib little comment here I am led to
> >> > believe that you find death to be a more "polite" alternative than
> >> > life.
> >> > There is nothing polite about death.  Your voluntary self censorship is
> >> > a mindless poorly reasoned exercise.
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> > Bill Mee
> >> >
> >> >
>
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