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Subject: Re: Bent Diver at Whitefish
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 97 20:31:39 -0400
From: Jim Cobb <cobber@mi*.co*>
To: <wwm@sa*.ne*>, <b.greenhouse@ut*.ca*>
cc: "James E. Robertson" <nforcer1@ix*.ne*.co*>,
     "Tech Diver" , "Cavers List" ,
     "George Irvine"
Awwww, geeeze, guys... You're not gonna make me scrape nitrox stickers 
off of old IANTD stage bottles again, are ya? Anything but thaaaaaat...

   Jim

On 9/17/97 5:56 PM Bill Mee wrote:

>Ben,
>
>I am very upset.  Apparently, your complaints were reported to Mr.
>George Irvine through the offices of the "Enforcer".  As you are well
>aware Mr. Irvine has a very low threshold for miscreancy of this ilk. He
>is taking the harshest of disciplinary actions against the profane and
>abusive public behavior of Mr. Cobb. As a result of your report I have
>been sternly reprimanded as well. 
>
>He has advised me to immediately draft a letter of apology to all the
>members of this list as well as personally applogize to the membership
>of the WKPP and beg them to forgive me for any past or future offenses I
>may cause while pursuing a vicious campaign against reputed strokery.
>
>BTW if I happen to meet you at O'Gillian's Technical Pub I will buy you
>a round of widow makers.
>
>Your severely punished colleague,
>
>Bill Mee
>
>
>Ben Greenhouse wrote:
>> 
>> Sure Bill, but there is a better, and less offensive way to let people know 
>they're
>> wrong.  But ramming your personal opinion down their throats after they've 
>made it
>> clear they don't agree and being so rude about it does ABSOLUTELY nothing.
>> 
>>>George Irvine wrote:
>>>
>>>  Ben, I will speak to Cobb and Bill Mee about this problem. Clearly it
>>> is inaappropriate to have an opinion other that does not mesh with your
>>> own view, and frankly, I am appalled that either one of these guys would
>>> be so reckless. This is the whole problem with diving today: we have
>>> experienced pros like Cobb and Mee butting into the fantasies and
>>> delusions of people like yourself. I will never undersatnd it.  
>
>>>   Good post , Ben, keep me informed of the behavior of thse two
>>> hooligans, and I will do what I can on my end. Give my best to the
>>> "enforcer", too. Geez, if there is anything I hate more than an opinion
>>> that diverges from sheer stupidity, it is the same with the facts to
>>> back it up. The nerve of these guys! Just when you thought it was safe
>>> to be a complete stroke.        - G
>
>> > James,
>> >
>> > You have no idea about what you are talking. Cobb is perhaps one of the
>> > best bs filters we have out there against stupidity, personal
>> > preferencism, doing it wrongism and all of the general idiocy which
>> > afflicts socalled "technical diving".  He is a real voice of truth and
>> > if you missed his recent and very appropriate post on the very real
>> > problem of being lost offshore you are missing the best that this list
>> > has to offer. Cobb calls it like it is.  Not only was his recent
>> > vignette humorous and well written but it highlighted the most serious
>> > risk in all open water diving.  That of being adrift and alone.  If you
>> > have never experienced this I suggest you arrange for a trip up to
>> > Whitefish Point.  Maybe they can arrange a special charter for you.
>> >
>> > You are apparently offended by hyperbole and baudy language.  Tell me
>> > something. Does death offend you?  Are you attracted to roadkills and
>> > other highway carnage? From your glib little comment here I am led to
>> > believe that you find death to be a more "polite" alternative than
>> > life.
>> > There is nothing polite about death.  Your voluntary self censorship is
>> > a mindless poorly reasoned exercise.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Bill Mee
>> >
>> >




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