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Holy CoW! I'm with RT on this one. Why offer some watered down course except for money grubbing...? Take the toughest course from the best instructor that dives Mix on a regular basis... wait a minute... That kind of limits the list down to one person doesn't it? TriMix: If you are a HFS forget it.. If you are too cheap to buy the right gas for the job forget it... If you are too cheap to buy the right equipment for the job forget it... If you are too cheap/dumb to go to an instructor that actually dives mix forget it... If you are too dense to get past simple algebra forget it.. If you can't figure out that you need to learn a little at a time forget it... If you are too full of yourself to learn from the pros forget it.. Jeff > > i honestly can't believe my eyes. here i am reading these "training > standards for intermediate trimix course". "intermediate trimix course"? > "intermediate trimix course"? this sounds almost as much of an oxymoron as > "central intelligence agency" or "almost pregnant" or "good deep on air". > > helium is fucking helium plain and simple. if you are "qualified" to dive > "intermediate trimix" then why aren't you "qualified" to dive "regular > trimix"? this is really a joke. what does it boil down to? the fact that you > haven't "learned" how to "dive deep on air" first yet. > > and then the excuse is "well, for a lot of the decompression for deeper > dives, it's done on air, so you need to be able to handle that". well, for a > 35 minute dive on the doria, on 17/35 (a "hypoxic trimix" so i would be > ineligible to use this mix), my first stop is at 130'. yes, i guess that > would be too difficult to dive if i'm only qualified as an "intermediate > trimix diver". and yes, i realize that it would be deep enough that without > a doubt i would need to have taken that deep air course first. > > what this looks like to me is one more way to cram another course down > the unsuspecting students throat. tell me, how long before intermediate > trimix is a pre-req to taking full blown trimix? i guess iantd is really run > by a padi mount. > > deep air is bullshit. tom, please realize this. how many more people need > to die diving deep on air for this stupidity to stop? it's one thing when > you have dumb rednecks killing themselves trying to break the deep air > record, but it's another when you have instructors trying to sell courses to > teach unqualified students to dive air to 200'. by the way, i feel that no > one is really qualified to dive air to 200' because of how fucked up you are > when you're there. you said it yourself, you like to use the lowrance as a > trimix training dive, take them on air, then back on mix, see how different > the wreck looks to them. > > i suppose at least with the intermediate trimix course you won't have to > worry to much about your instructors diving air with their students. a-ha. > maybe that's the reason for this, keep the air diving instructors (while > teaching mix students) shallower then 200'. > > maybe it's time another agency step up and "pet the pony" so to speak, > and offer real certifications. let's cut all of the horseshit, there only > needs to be three of these certifications; nitrox, a no bullshit course > which teaches you everything you need to know about nitrox; technical diver, > a course which teaches you decompression techniques, included o2 accelerated > deco; trimix, a course that teaches you how to dive deeper then 130' using > helium in your breathing mix. if the iantd's of the world won't get it right > then it is time for someone else to do it the right way. - dick > > > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send list subscription requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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