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From: Jeff Bentley <jbentley@cr*.co*>
Subject: Re: TO BE HOGARTHIAN OR NOT BE HOGARTHIAN, OR TO SIMPLY....
To: Gillette_GJ@ms*.co* (Garry Gillette)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 05:49:16 -0700 (PDT)
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com, cavers@ge*.co*
Huh?

Grow a pair and use your brain and decide for yourself.

If you can't come to a solution that is damn close to mine
I suspect that we don't think the same way and would not dive
well together.. whatcha think?

Jeff

> 
> To be Hogarthian or not to be Hogarthian  or to wear this principle as a
badge 
> of honour as you would a "Click" jacket or a Hells Angel's tattoo, to simply 
> impress piers and gain access to the cave diving fraternity social set?
> 
> The Hogarthian principle is a very sound one and one of its' greatest 
> achievements is that it makes people think and think very hard about their 
> gear configuration. For this reason alone it is worth its' weight in gold and 
> Bill Main should be commended. The basic principle of "keep it simple", "less 
> is best" or "only take what you need" is as stated very sound , but some 
> people seem to be bordering on fanaticism. I was reading a webb page the
other 
> day and the author was rabbiting on about dropping the one inch "D" ring on 
> his crotch strap as he never uses a scooter and it was therefore totally 
> superfluous. Presumably because of its' unwieldy weight and extreme high 
> profile drag.
> 
> "You must wear a light canister to your right, on your waist belt"
> "You must wrap a long hose under this canister and around your neck AND
breath 
> from it"
> "You must donate this hose and reg to your out of air buddy"
> 
> Rather dogmatic and inflexible if you ask me. Try doing that with say a Dive 
> Rite twin pack MLS light canister and a couple of stage tanks in your lounge 
> room and then have your wife run up and grab the reg out of your gob and see 
> what happens. Half an hour later, when you finally untangle yourself, think 
> about how it would have ended up under water. Throw in a silt out for good 
> measure.
> 
> 	"You cannot stuff your long hose under a bungie between your twin pack or on 
> the side of your tank otherwise you are a "stroke"."
> 
> Well you can stuff it anywhere you like, including up your arse, if that 
> happens to be the most logical, convenient, efficient and practical place for 
> it given the type of dive and the package you are wearing. My point is that
we 
> seem to be losing sight of the fact that we have to be adaptable and be 
> prepared to adapt to circumstances and conditions. If by adapting we improve 
> our overall functionality and efficiency then is that not the whole point of 
> thinking about configuration? After all, isn't that what Bill Main was 
> actually doing when he designed this type of configuration and the principles 
> behind it in the first place? He was deviating from accepted principles of 
> configuration.
> 
> According to the WKPP, one of the most extreme and dogmatic of all proponents 
> of Hogarthism, if you deviate whatsoever from the purists (their) way, you
are 
> a stroke.
> 
> 	"Do not dive with a stroke"
> 	"Do not listen to a stroke"
> 
> This sounds a bit like the KKK only instead of talking about Blacks and Jews, 
> they are talking about non purist Hogarthians. Ever wondered what the "W" in 
> WKPP stands for? It stands for Wanker. A Wanker is the same as a Stroke
except 
> he uses his right hand to do it with.
> 
> I even read an article by one of these guys stating that everybody should be 
> wary and avoid like the plague anybody using independents. Moreover, never 
> dive with them because they will kill you. Really?
> 
> I agree with and practice Hogarthian configuration. I agree with and practice 
> Hogarthian principles. I do not agree with nor practice the inflexible, 
> dogmatic, discriminatory, hang shit on anyone who does not conform attitude
of 
> some purists. I am a proponent of taking what is proven and best and refining 
> it and adapting it for ME, for MY safety, for MY circumstances and for MY 
> comfort.
> 
> I'll bet that stirs a few hornets or is there a few out there of like mind? I 
> would enjoy a discussion as I may learn a little or a lot. I might even see 
> the error of my ways or maybe I wont.
> 
> 

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