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Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 01:30:14 -0400
To: rducsh@er*.co*
From: Bill Bott <aquadart@ix*.ne*.co*>
Subject: Re: NC Weenies
Cc: tech Divers List <Techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Rick Dusch,

First, let me say that I hate it when some asshole is unwilling or to
stupid to do the homework necessary to voice an informed, intelligent
opinion.  Even worse is when one of these individuals voice an opinion and
hold it out as fact.  If anyone is unclear as to the difference, let me
know and I=92ll help  you find a tutor to teach you what you should have
learned as a child!  Now, on to tank filling, testing, and cleaning as it
relates to 49CFR parts 172 & 173

49CFR =A7 173.34 (a)(1) states that "No person may charge or fill a cylinder
unless it is as specified in this part and part 178 of this sub chapter. A
cylinder that leaks, is bulged, has defective valves or safety devices,
bears evidence of abuse, fire or heat damage, or detrimental rust or
corrosion, must not be used unless it is properly repaired and requalified
as prescribed in these regulations."

I guess that lets you off the hook Rick.  Not one word about festering puss
balls or privately owned scuba tanks.  Only persons.  However, as I stated
before I=92m afraid I must comply.

49CFR =A7 173.34 (e)  "Periodic qualification and marking of cylinders.  Eac=
h
cylinder that becomes due for periodic retest as specified in the following
table must be retested and marked in conformance with the requirements of
this paragraph (e)"   The table indicates that 3A, 3AA cylinders be tested
to "5/3 times service pressure (see paragraph =A7173.34 (e)(13)"  retest
period  "5, 10, or 12 years (see =A7173.34 (e)(14), (e)(12), (e)(16), and
(e)(19))."   3AL cylinders have SIMILAR but different requirements.

No mention of who must comply.  You might be able to make the case that
because no mention of stupid festering puss balls appears in any of the
relevant code you are, again, exempt. However, as I stated before I=92m
afraid I must comply.

49CFR =A7 173.2a classifies and describes "hazardous materials".
Non-flammable compressed gas is a Class 2 Division 2.2 according to  49CFR
=A7 173.2a.

49CFR =A7 172.101 contains the "HAZARDOUS MATERIALS TABLE"  refers to such
gases as "Air, compressed", "Helium, compressed", "Rare gases and oxygen
mixtures" and "Oxygen, compressed" as well as pages of other liquid, solid
and gaseous items.

49CFR =A7 173.115 (b) titled "Division 2.2 (non-flammable, non-poisonous
compressed gas -including compressed gas, liquefied gas, pressurized
cryogenic gas, compressed gas in solution, asphyxiant gas and oxidizing
gas)"  further describes the gases included in this part of the code.

49CFR =A7 173.1 (b) states, in part, "A shipment of hazardous materials that
is not prepared in accordance with this subchapter may not be offered for
transportation by air, highway, rail, or water."

This covers you.  Even a putrid stupid festering puss ball must not offer
for transportation any class of hazardous material not prepared in
accordance with the relevant code. Even if contained in privately owned
scuba tanks.

49CFR =A7 173.302 (a)(5)(iii) gives the specifications for federally require=
d
cleaning of 3AL cylinders "used in oxygen service,..."=20

Enough of the 49CFR =A7 .... adnausium crap!  Here are the FACTS:  FEDERAL
LAW REQUIRES COMPLIANCE WITH THE RELEVANT SECTIONS OF CODE.  If you have a
problem with that write your congressman NOT ME!!!!  As for you abject
stupidity, keep talking.  I love to expose those who only think they have a
clue.  And, it is painfully obvious you don=92t!!!!!  I, on the other hand,
do know what I'm talking about. Now Shut up and go away.  You bore me!!!

At 07:18 PM 8/11/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Look dumn FUCK!
>Before you call someone clueless you better now what the fuck your
>talking about, DOT REGS DO NOT APPLY TO PRIVETLY OWNED SCUBA CYLINDERS
>
>
>
>Bill Bott wrote:
>>=20
>> Dear Clueless@er*.co*,
>>=20
>> Are you telling me that if the store does not own the tank then the tank
>> does not need a hydro every five years???  Where the fuck did you come
>> from.  The DOT codes make no such distinction   I want to know who is
>> filling tanks without a current hydro.  And why you would use them? =
 Tanks
>> DO fail!!!  Ask Joe at Ocean Diving!!
>

Bill (aquadart) Bott
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