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Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 23:32:13 -0400
To: rducsh@er*.co*
From: Bill Bott <aquadart@ix*.ne*.co*>
Subject: Re: NC Weenies
Cc: tech Divers List <Techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Dear Clueless@er*.co*,

Are you telling me that if the store does not own the tank then the tank
does not need a hydro every five years???  Where the fuck did you come
from.  The DOT codes make no such distinction   I want to know who is
filling tanks without a current hydro.  And why you would use them?  Tanks
DO fail!!!  Ask Joe at Ocean Diving!!

OSHA does not make any distinctions with regard to ownership either.  If
money, goods or any service of value is exchanged as a result of filling a
tank you have conducted business.  You then fall under OSHA regs.  

Let me give you some examples (it's obvious someone needs to hold your hand
for this one):

1.	I buy a tank of compressed He & a tank of O2 from a gas supplier, the
gas supplier MUST comply whit OSHA regs.  

2.	I then take that gas home where I blend a 15/40 Tri-Mix for myself.  I
am NOT compelled to adhere to OSHA regs (no "business" was conducted)  

3.	My friend Phil comes over and I mix him a 15/40 Tri-Mix so that we can
dive the same mix on our dive together.  Because I like Phil (he lets me
stay at his cabin several times a year) I don't charge him for the gases or
my time to mix his gas.  I am NOT compelled to adhere to OSHA regs (no
"business" was conducted).

4.  	Frank gets his tanks filled with 15/40 so that he too can dive the
same gas on our dive together.  Frank is a Coast Guard licensed Capt. And
runs the charter boat we will be diving from.  In exchange for the boat
ride I fill Frank� tanks.  Business WAS conducted.  I MUST COMPLY with OSHA
regs.

5	Bart is also diving with us But I don�t owe Bart anything (he is Paul�s
friend but Paul is gone to Europe for six weeks and won�t be there)  I
charge Bart for the gases used to mix his gas. Business WAS conducted.  I
MUST COMPLY with OSHA regs.

Can you see the difference between each of these cases and why OSHA is
involved in some but not others?  Do you need more help with this i.e. an
explanation as to why Frank, Bart and the gas supplier were business deals
and why my and Phil�s fill were NOT?  Do you need me to relight the joint
you were smoking when you wrote the last post to me?


At 07:03 PM 8/8/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Bill Bott wrote:
>> 
>> RD,
>> 
>> OSHA regs.  I'll look up the code if you need it.  Private individuals
>> (nonbusiness) are not covered by there regs. 
>
>	Bill ,
>Thats my point the OSHA, DOT regs regarding pressure vessels (scuba)
>do not apply to privatly owned cylinders , if a dive shop ownes
>there own cylinders and are renting them out to the puplic then they
>must follow the regs.(tanks clean, hydro every five years ect.)
> but if i bring a cylinder in for filling those regs those regs do not
>apply....RD
>

Bill (aquadart) Bott
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