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Bill Bott wrote: > > Dear Clueless@er*.co*, > > Are you telling me that if the store does not own the tank then the tank > does not need a hydro every five years??? Where the fuck did you come > from. The DOT codes make no such distinction I want to know who is > filling tanks without a current hydro. And why you would use them? Tanks > DO fail!!! Ask Joe at Ocean Diving!! > > OSHA does not make any distinctions with regard to ownership either. If > money, goods or any service of value is exchanged as a result of filling a > tank you have conducted business. You then fall under OSHA regs. > > Let me give you some examples (it's obvious someone needs to hold your hand > for this one): > > 1. I buy a tank of compressed He & a tank of O2 from a gas supplier, the > gas supplier MUST comply whit OSHA regs. > > 2. I then take that gas home where I blend a 15/40 Tri-Mix for myself. I > am NOT compelled to adhere to OSHA regs (no "business" was conducted) > > 3. My friend Phil comes over and I mix him a 15/40 Tri-Mix so that we can > dive the same mix on our dive together. Because I like Phil (he lets me > stay at his cabin several times a year) I don't charge him for the gases or > my time to mix his gas. I am NOT compelled to adhere to OSHA regs (no > "business" was conducted). > > 4. Frank gets his tanks filled with 15/40 so that he too can dive the > same gas on our dive together. Frank is a Coast Guard licensed Capt. And > runs the charter boat we will be diving from. In exchange for the boat > ride I fill Frank tanks. Business WAS conducted. I MUST COMPLY with OSHA > regs. > > 5 Bart is also diving with us But I dont owe Bart anything (he is Pauls > friend but Paul is gone to Europe for six weeks and wont be there) I > charge Bart for the gases used to mix his gas. Business WAS conducted. I > MUST COMPLY with OSHA regs. > > Can you see the difference between each of these cases and why OSHA is > involved in some but not others? Do you need more help with this i.e. an > explanation as to why Frank, Bart and the gas supplier were business deals > and why my and Phils fill were NOT? Do you need me to relight the joint > you were smoking when you wrote the last post to me? > > At 07:03 PM 8/8/97 -0400, you wrote: > >Bill Bott wrote: > >> > >> RD, > >> > >> OSHA regs. I'll look up the code if you need it. Private individuals > >> (nonbusiness) are not covered by there regs. > > > > Bill , > >Thats my point the OSHA, DOT regs regarding pressure vessels (scuba) > >do not apply to privatly owned cylinders , if a dive shop ownes > >there own cylinders and are renting them out to the puplic then they > >must follow the regs.(tanks clean, hydro every five years ect.) > > but if i bring a cylinder in for filling those regs those regs do not > >apply....RD > > > > Bill (aquadart) Bott > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send list subscription requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. Other than OSHA, the DOT regulations can apply to materials / items that are not carried over the public highways in "commerce." In Virginia, they adopted all of the US DOT regulations (the 49-series CFRs), but deleted the two words "in commerce" from them. That includes hazmat transport / handling training, shipping papers, manifests, etc. Of course, they don't really look are non-commercial vehicles that much, but create a hazmat incident on the highway with materials that are not usually associated with a privately owned vehicle, grad your wallet / checkbook cause you will probably be paying fines and any clean-up costs. L.P. Dutton (HazMat Specialist in Va) -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send list subscription requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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