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Subject: re:NC Weenies
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 97 09:02:29 -0400
From: Jim Cobb <cobber@mi*.co*>
To: "Bill Bott" <aquadart@ix*.ne*.co*>
cc: "tech Divers List" <Techdiver@aquanaut.com>
On 8/6/97 11:32 PM Bill Bott wrote:

>Jim,
>
>I'm not about to argue that most of what is required at a dive shop is BS.
>Nor will I stand in this forum and make doomsday predictions for those who
>don't follow any recommendation for Oxygen handling or storage.  I'm sure
>George has done more fills than I have and never had an accident.  And =
more
>than likely never will.  However, what others do is not my problem anyway!
>
>What I am saying is that I fill in a dive shop.  To meet insurance and =
OSHA
>requirements I will continue to require a certain MINAMUM level of
>compliance.  End of story!!!

Fine. Go for it. Let everyone know where your shop is so we can avoid =
it at all costs.

>I ask nothing of anyone else that I don=EDt do myself.  There are NO =
double
>standards.  There are NO exceptions!!!  I spelled it out before but here =
it
>is again :
>
>1) 	You must be certified for the gas requested
>
>2)	The tanks must be current for both Visual and Hydro
>
>3)	If Oxygen is to be added they must comply with ONE OR MORE agencies
>standards (To put it bluntly the tank must be stickered for Oxygen service
>within the last 12 months).
>
>4) 	If tanks are filled with a gas other than air the customer MUST =
analyze
>the tanks and sign a waver stating the FO2 and MOD of the gas before
>leaving with the gas.
>
>5)  The tanks MUST be labeled with the contents and MOD if they contain
>other than air.
>
>If you feel that is to restrictive TUFF!!!  My tanks meet this set of
>requirements.  And if I mix gas for you at the dive shop YOURS WILL TOO!!!
>I guess by your tone I won't find you at the shops in N. C. if you think
>I'm unreasonable.

Bingo!

>We both know that the "O2 clean" stuff is BS but that to is TUFF!!!  The
>first time you get a single grain of sand, dust dirt or anything in the
>valve it is no longer "Oxygen Compatible" by the truest definition.  But =
if
>you have the valve and tank cleaned once a year you meet the requirements
>of the insurance companies and the likes.  BS???  Your DAMN RIGHT its =
BS!!!
> But that is what is required.  And frankly the amount of work required to
>do a cleaning is worth much more than the money the shop charges.

Well now, here's a newsflash. Now sand reacts with oxygen.

>Now  Do you want to argue about a bunch of BS or do you want to dive??  Me
>I=EDm diving!!  So I think I=EDll take my "Oxygen Clean" tanks, mix some =
gas
>and dive!  If you want to continue this I=EDll be at the dive shop


I'm diving too, just without giving your dive shop or any other like =
you any of my hard earned money. If you think these rules are BS yet =
still abide by them without any kicking or screaming, just where do =
your principles lay?

   Jim
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