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To: techdiver@opal.com
To: roger@fe*.ca*.ed*
Subject: RE: Gas with Air Repet
From: roger@ch*.sp*.tr*.co* (Roger Carlson)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 94 12:37 PDT
Speaking of bubbles wandering around in your bloodstream, I'm curious about
the effect of a patent ovale foramen, a hole between one side of the heart and
the other, allowing some amount of blood to get back into the body without
going through the lungs. At first glance, it seems like a bad thing for
divers, since you would expect the lungs to aid a great deal in polishing
bubbles out of the bloodstream ;). With the current thread, however, it seems
like even without a patency, bubbles persist for a while, longer than it takes
for blood to run a complete cycle through the circulatory system. So, do the
lungs not remove all the bubbles coming past, or are more bubbles coming out
of solution to keep the blood carbonated? (ok, I know that's the wrong word. I
just like the image.) Are the lungs not removing bubbles because the
complement system has formed a shell around them or is the system overloaded?
	So anyway, these bubbles might be running around with or without a
patency. I can imagine a scenario where a large bubble might go through the
patency to the brain or block a critical vessel instead of being removed or
reduced by the lungs, but otherwise, is the situation that different? I
suppose the degree of difference depends on the size of the hole.

Any comments? any data on divers with patencies? Any insight on bubble flow or
removal based on this data?

Hope I used all the fancy medical terms right, but then again, I hope I used
all the regular English words good.

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