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Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 14:52:10 -0400
From: George Irvine <gmirvine@sa*.ne*>
Organization: Woodville Karst Plain Project
To: EliteDive@ao*.co*
CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com, cvavers@ge*.co*
Subject: Re: UWS - Yet Another Version of the Palmer Story
Tony, I will let these jerks argue this with you for a while. They put
out several different stories of how Palmer died, and in all of them
what stands out is that every one of these guys is exactly what I said
they are the first time. My opinion remains the same, and we all know I
am right about this, and we need to prevent it from happening over and
over again , which means we need to point out that the practitioners of
deep air diving are all people who have never done squat anywhere any
time. Excellence at drug abuse is not technical diving, and deep air
diving is nothing more than drug abuse, and the people who do it are all
known strokes, and if I were not right about this Brett Gilliam would
not be shitting himself trying to get at me.  

 EliteDive@ao*.co* wrote:
> 
> George,
> I have no disagreement with your viewpoint. I have long publicly stated my
> feelings on the responsibilities of the leaders in our community (technical &
> cave diving) which is rapidly evolving.
> 
> We need to stick to the facts, and realize that :
> 
> "He who does not learn from history, is doomed to repeat it".
> 
> Indeed, all of history proves this to be true, putting out misinformation
> regarding this incident robs it of it's only true value, it's potential to
> keep others from going down that path.
> 
> While people are not about to start diving He at 130-150 (some should) there
> is no reason, excuse, etc. for ultra deep air excursions.
> 
> Economics, is not a valid reason to compromise safety.
> 
> Safe Diving, Tony M. Satterfield
> 
> "It is difficult to live in the present, ridiculous to live in the future,
> and impossible to live in the past.  Nothing is as far away as one minute
> ago". - Jim Bishop
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