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From: <gmirvine@sa*.ne*>
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 09:47:33 -0400
To: Michel Therrien <m.therrien@ne*.qc*.ca*>
CC: btaylor@am*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com, cavers@ge*.co*
Subject: Re: Deeptech 2
We will get to see what the real purpose of this magazine is in the
next issue: I hear that the owners are threatening to put something in
the magazine in retaliation for my stance on deep air diving. They are
saying I "owed them one" for the recent article they did on me, and are
pissed about my criticism of deep air and those who have participated in
it, both dead anbd alive. 

   You will recall that Gillaim wrote up a ridiculous letter to me which
somebody from Uwatec  faxed to Bill "bird" Ostreich, whom I consider to
be the single biggest stroke in dive instruction today. The idiot bird
did not bother to eliminate the Uwatec fax number from the letter he
reproduced and passed out at the CDS workshop, according to my lawyer.
Mitch is denying that they sent this letter out.

   The fact is that these guys completely misquoted me, they used
supposed quotes by me to try to discredit Tom Mount and IANTD, and they
made me look like complete idiot in this article, which I am for having
anything to do with Gilliam, and I admit it. I was trying to just let
that die out and go away, including the by-mail dive instructor "award"
I was givin, but Gilliam chose to resurrect this in his outburst.

   I had to personally call Tom Mount and assure him that those were
Mitch Skaggs words, not mine ( Mitch is the one who did the interview,
not the nom de plume that was used ). I can also assure all of you that
anything that appears out of character for me was not me.

   I did not see the magazine of any of the other articles, but if what
I hear about the rebreather article is true, then it is clear that this
magazine is worthless, despite the efforts of Curt Bowen to do a great
job, which he does for his part.

   If Gilliam is going to use this vehicle to promote deep air diving,
Drager rebreathers, Uwatec gear and other self-serving agendas, I would
suggest avoiding it altogether for obvious reasons. 

    By the way, these guys have tried going to the WKPP sponsors to
complain about us, and they were told the same thing I told them - only
an idiot dives deep on air. Also, as you all know, Gilliams efforts to
hurt me did no good, and would never do any good, but had they succeeded
, they would have only hurt the other 93 guys, who now know what a real
stand up guy Brett is ,and  what TDI is really about.   

    George Irvine


Michel Therrien wrote:
> 
> Before the death of Win Remley, Deeptech used to be a great (GREAT)
> magazine.  However, the last issues disapointed me... I do not renew.
> 
> Michel Therrien
> 
> At 08:17 AM 6/6/97 +0100, you wrote:
> >     Jim's note re Deeptech prompted me to send this. I liked the first few
> >     and recommended it to some friends. The simple style of the graphics
> >     were good for teaching aids (surveying the cave turned into surveying
> >     the wreck). Articles were (seemed) free of bias and attempts to make
> >     inflated claims (see george's comments on the construction of his
> >     artice). I think that things are changing and it's trying to be more
> >     'commercial'.Is this just my impression or can anyone else see this
> >     change? Do they like it?
> >     regards
> >     Brian
> >
> 
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