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We all liked Palmer, and his books make one want to go cave diving right now. You saw the quotes I used from him about this very subject, and that leaves us with the obvious conclusions: one, that like Exley, he was in violation of rule number one, and like Exley, he let the strokes in the bullshit dive "community" make his destiny through peer pressure. If Rob, who had nothing to prove, can be pressured by the deep air strokes, than what will happen with all of those who have even less validation in their own diving pecking order minds? The answer is, they die, right and left. What is amazing is that I am still a real mean guy for getting on Hall Watts' case at Tek 96. Gee, I should have been more polite. Deep air diving is drug abuse, and like drug abuse, it has physiological consequences that are permanent, like spinal cord and brain damage, and like drug or alcholol abuse, the big abusers appear to have a bigger tolerance than the casual partakers right up until they pass out umexpectedly, and drown in the case of the nitrogen abuser, and wreck their car in the case of the alchohol abuser. There is no justification for being a stroke, and all of the strokes out there can whine about me until they drop. I am praying for all of you to stay safe, and for many of you that means staying out of the water. Chris Hellas wrote: > > In message <3372526C.68E@sa*.ne*>, George Irvine > <gmirvine@sa*.ne*> writes > >This is a classic: "equipment failure". He borrows equipment, already > >stupid, and then does a planned deep air dive , more stupid. In other > >works, years of great work, and he dies stupid, the quintessential > >"stroke", complete with proof . The dive industry and instructor groups, > >all too stupid to get the message, continue to propagate this kind of > >behavior. HELLO! > > SNIP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > G et-al > > This hurts - big time, but I have to agree. > > There is no such thing as 'planned deep air dive'. - PERIOD!!!!!!!! > > There is no justification - can never,ever be for what has happened. > > Mixed gas diving for 'us' came about to knock off the lunacy risk > factor. Helen ( my, wife,) cried last night at my anguish and distress - > she said it could have been me. The truth is that it never, ever could > be me. I recall an entry in my dive log of around 2 years ago that > relates to a fun trip to Malta/Gozo - it recalls a dive to 85 metres on > air - the closing comment is 'NEVER,EVER,AGAIN'. Right now I have a > problem discussing what has happened - however I plead with you all - > Listen to what is being said:- > > Run PpO2 of no more than 1.4 for short duration dives - drop it for more > than 30 - 45 min bottom times - the oxygen load accumulated during the > dive plus deco will get you. > > Run END's of 40 metres or shallower as a maximum of - no greater than > 60 metres with vertical relief (i.e clear surface). Please do not become > comfortable with what you are doing in a 'pissing' contest context. > > For you and your loved ones sakes:- Get a dose of reality, we are in an > environment that evolution told us to get lost from. We have to depend > upon mission critical systems/techiniques/attitude - remember this when > you are being hypnotised by the 'rebreather medicine man'. > > To use the 'physiological' advantage of what we do you can no have a > public verses private attitude. Either have a crap or get off of the > toilet. The jerk factor out there is very high - teach them right or get > back under your stone - PERIOD -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send list subscription requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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