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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 13:23:33 -0400
From: George Irvine <gmirvine@sa*.ne*>
Organization: George Irvine
To: H2Ocaver <ezimmerm@ch*.ca*.us*.ed*>
CC: "David Shimell (shimell)" <shimell@se*.co*>, cavers@ge*.co*,
     "'techdiver@aquanaut.com'"
Subject: Re: Building a Scooter
Eric, I can build them and sell them cheaper and better than anyone
could do it themselves. Ask anyone who has one. Olivier Isler bought one
from me, and this is a guy who teaches at the Swiss Institute of
Technology and built his own rebreather, and holds several cave diving
World Records. You can pay me now, or you can pay me later. I think we
all know what my scooters can do.  



H2Ocaver wrote:
> 
>         Gavin and George and Arnold are the experts in building scooters,
>         but I thiink I know the response from them would be-don't do it
>         for one or two scooters. I have had some experience buiding scooters
>         and it is extremely cost prohibitive and just a plain pain in the
>         ass. That is even going so far as to assume that you get everybody
>         together and all the money upfront, ask George about that part.
>         I have picked up that magazine "DIVER" from the UK and I believe
>         that you can get the general issue units from the major
>         manufacturers. My opinion is that you try some out first, you
>         need to know if you like ride-on or tow-behind types and
>         also, what kind of power you need. The Mako is not safe at the
>         depth you want. And the Gavin(if you could get it) is beyond
>         overkill. The Predator is probably not available over there and
>         is big bucks (pounds) anyway. That leaves the Apollo/Dacor unit
>         for the depth, but it is sssslllooowwwww and is probably not
>         strong enough in a really good current. Its burn time is short,
>         but you are not looking past its limit anyway. The Torpedo is
>         not rated to that depth and I would not try it. So it's your
>         call as to the building of your own, but I will tell you that
>         the first few time you put it in the water, you will be watching
>         alot of money being risked-EZ
> 
> On Mon, 28 Apr 1997, David Shimell (shimell) wrote:
> 
> >
> > All
> >
> > A small group of us are contemplating building scooters for our own use.
> >  We plan to use the scooters for UK wreck diving, depths typically in the
> > 60-80 m (200' - 260') range but would like it to operate to 100 m (330').
> >  For shallower diving we would need no more than 60 minutes burn time.
> >  We have access to workshop skills and facilities.
> >
> > I was wondering whether there was any information out on the net or
> > whether there were any experiences that people would like to share.  A
> > consideration is that the scooter should be inexpensive but safe (i.e.
> > not explode!).
> >
> > David Shimell
> > Project Manager
> > Email: shimell@se*.co*
> >
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