Mailing List Archive

Mailing List: techdiver

Banner Advert

Message Display

From: <EliteDive@ao*.co*>
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 03:32:12 -0500 (EST)
To: bdi@wh*.ne*
cc: Tom.Mount@wo*.at*.ne*, techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Pin head- read and learn- then shut up
In a message dated 97-03-10 20:53:50 EST, you write:

<< Subj:	Re: Pin head- read and learn- then shut up
 Date:	97-03-10 20:53:50 EST
 From:	bdi@wh*.ne*
 To:	EliteDive@ao*.co*
 CC:	techdiver@aquanaut.com, cavers@ge*.co*, TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*
 
 At 12:08 AM 8/03/1997 -0500, Satterfield (EliteDive@ao*.co*)
 wrote:
 
 >You misinformed clown there is not a single page of 
 >Morralls work left in that text I rewrote the entire 
 >thing,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Pinhead
Now I finally see what you mean, Ijust erased a long reply as it is clear to
me that Morral took the disk that him and Ed finally got me to send him last
year after DEMA, he already had MY teaxt , I sent him my S&P's he was
supposed to put togeather an instrctor text but he never came up with it, he
stole my work and screwed ANDI and the UK and now he is not even an ITD and
Richard Nichols has dumped hiom and he last I heard was back with PADI where
he belongs. What you are reading fool is my work which he ripped off I have a
stack of text here he sold all over the that he copied peoples work and sold,
Now it makes sense what you have been saying, I never wanted to send the ass
the disk because i knew what he would do, he had no knowledge or talent of
his own.

My friend that is my work you are reading, except and of that ridiculous crap
he put in because he did not have a clue.
 
 
 Similarly page 8 of 'your' text is taken straight from page
 23 of the Instructors Manual, except for the fact that you
 had the effrontery to removed the line attributing the chart
 to Mark Caney.

 
 'Your' page 9 is a copy of half of page 25 in the Insructors
 Manual while 'your' pages 10 and 11 are straight copies of 
 pages 24, 26, and the other half of 25 of the Instructors
 Manual.
 
 Turning the page we discover 'your' page 14 bears a
 remarkable degree of similarity to page 27 of the Instructors
 Manual while 'your' page 15 is a dead ringer for their
 page 29.
 
 'Your' page 17 is the chart off their page 31 and 'your' page
 18 is the explanation of the Residual Toxicity Percentage
 Rule from their pages 32 and 33.
 
 Your page 19 is identical to the rest of their page 33
 except, in the RTP calculation example you have inserted
 different depths and nitrox mixes.
 
 Remember Tony you said:
 
 >I left very little of what was there before. The only 
 >other work in it at all is maybe 10 or so pages in the 
 >decompression section and some in narcsois that Ed wrote
 >it is not bad but I did not have to leave it in there,...
 
 Well, in the first 20 pages, there's only 3 or 4 that
 MIGHT be your original work. And we haven't even got to 
 the decompression section yet. 
 
 Your amnesia regarding the origin of the printed word is 
 equalled by your misinterpretation of the spoken word. 
 You wrote:
 
 >When I presented my program to these guy's with a complete 
 >set of S & P's and text to replace the horrendous stuff they 
 >had done, the main comment was this is to hard...
 
 No, their main comment was "make sure that its not too hard 
 (too big a leap) compared to the CSU course."
  >>>>>>>>>
Only two possibilites exist: either you are lying , or you have been lied to,
the comment about being to hard was exactly the comment made, they wanted to
push my program up to erd and keep the piece of crap as it was so no face
would be lost.
As a result of that they decided they wanted a bridge program, Ed said fine
write it, I said fine, just do not call it technical, well since no other
program came about I guess you can figure who preveiled in that one. My
biggest mistake was letting Ed talk me into sending that imbeclie my disk.
 You wrote 
 
 >Now you have some facts instead of you misinfromed and 
 >willfull disregard of such. You will find my friend that 
 >I can back up every single staement I make. Feel free 
 >to check all of this out.
 >
 >Next time you think about jumping up way out of your 
 >level, at least try to have some facts, or in the 
 >alternative just listen.
 
 Yes Tony. One last thing. You wrote
 
 >Nichols not much better, he thinkd you dive with an isolator
 > valve closed and you can't turn you valves on and off.
 
 There's that memory drop-out again Tony. Very convenient.The 
 sentence is " Isolation manifolds should be used with both 
 systems isolated if the diver finds himself in a position where 
 he is unable to isolate the system."
 
 Tony. Integrity. Self-control. Try them.
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
That one is really good if the diver finds himself in a position where he is
unable to isolate the system, such as what ? Please spare me the dry suit bit
that is what richard said and it makes no difference. if you can't use and
isolator, stick to single tank diving.


I wil say pinhead you are determined , but there is one simple way to get to
the bottom of this, whay don't you call up Ed Betts or Tony Zimos and ask
them about Morrals contribution. Ask him whay the Austrailian version of the
TSD instructor text was not autorized , what you have has never been seen by
anyone at HQ, and it is my work form what you describe. Tell me did Paul
leave in the part about doing a buddy check at the surface, then desceding to
10fsw and doing another check, then to 20fsw and another check, the , yes I
am not joking to 30fsw and do another check, then if everthing is OK proceed
with the dive plan. What about the fin pivot as a technical skill or
hoovering, and mask removal, these are a sampling of the skills in the work
Paul sent over what he had wrote I told Ed we had to trash it, and we did.
What you have is NOT an ANDI text from what you describe.

At least though my dear pinhead, you did try to get some facts , but you are
trying so hard to find me to be false and unfortunatley for you it's not
happening. Call up the real HQ and get some facts, unless you can answer what
reason Ed would have to pay me a large sum of money, and a contract for the
work, I only sold him the exclusive rights to distribution not the book
itself, he has obligations according to our contract. Why would he do this if
what you say had any possibility of being true ? Good question isn't it ?
Explain that one >>>

I think you should pick up the phone up, put it up to your pinhead and give
them a call at HQ and get the facts.
I would loive to see this work you are talking about, I will gladly purchase
a copy , please tell me where I can get one.
 I appreciate the information update, but friend you are on the wrong side of
the fence, do some checking around ANDI HQ try them, go to the source.
 
I do not know what you mean by the IANTD copy machine comment, there is
nothing photcopied in my work. 
 
 
 --
 Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'.
 Send list subscription requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
 
 
 ----------------------- Headers --------------------------------
 From owner-techdiver@aquanaut.com  Mon Mar 10 20:52:55 1997
 Return-Path: owner-techdiver@aquanaut.com
 Received: from bighorn.terra.net (bighorn.terra.net [199.103.128.2]) by
emin05.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id UAA25768; Mon, 10 Mar 1997
20:52:43 -0500
 Received: (mail@lo*) 
 	by bighorn.terra.net (8.7.6/jr2.10)
 	id UAA21493; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 20:51:07 -0500
 Precedence: bulk
 Errors-To: owner-techdiver@aquanaut.com
 Received: from bighorn.terra.net (root@lo*) 
 	by bighorn.terra.net (8.7.6/jr2.10) with EXEC
 	id UAA20779; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 20:29:03 -0500
 From: <bdi@wh*.ne*>
 Received: from mail.hartingdale.com.au (mail.hartingdale.com.au
[203.63.228.11]) 
 	by bighorn.terra.net (8.7.6/jr2.10) with ESMTP
 	id UAA20765; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 20:28:46 -0500
 Received: from p7.ao.ts1.hartingdale.com.au (p8.ao.ts1.hartingdale.com.au
[203.61.114.108]) by mail.hartingdale.com.au (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id
MAA28553; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 12:19:58 +1100
 Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 12:19:58 +1100
 Message-Id: <199703110119.MAA28553@ma*.ha*.co*.au*>
 X-Sender: bdi@ma*.ha*.co*.au*
 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2
 Mime-Version: 1.0
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 To: <EliteDive@ao*.co*>
 Subject: Re: Pin head- read and learn- then shut up
 Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com, cavers@ge*.co*, TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*
  >>

--
Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'.
Send list subscription requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.

Navigate by Author: [Previous] [Next] [Author Search Index]
Navigate by Subject: [Previous] [Next] [Subject Search Index]

[Send Reply] [Send Message with New Topic]

[Search Selection] [Mailing List Home] [Home]