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Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 07:53:20 -0500
From: Bob Raimo <b.raimo@wo*.at*.ne*>
Organization: Scuba Depot Inc.
To: EliteDive@ao*.co*
CC: bdi@wh*.ne*, Tom.Mount@wo*.at*.ne*, techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Pin head- read and learn- then shut up
EliteDive@ao*.co* wrote:
> 

> Now I finally see what you mean, Ijust erased a long reply as it is clear to
> me that Morral took the disk that him and Ed finally got me to send him last
> year after DEMA, he already had MY teaxt , I sent him my S&P's he was
> supposed to put togeather an instrctor text but he never came up with it, he
> stole my work and screwed ANDI and the UK and now he is not even an ITD and
> Richard Nichols has dumped hiom and he last I heard was back with PADI where
> he belongs. What you are reading fool is my work which he ripped off I have a
> stack of text here he sold all over the that he copied peoples work and sold,
> Now it makes sense what you have been saying, I never wanted to send the ass
> the disk because i knew what he would do, he had no knowledge or talent of
> his own.
> 

> Only two possibilites exist: either you are lying , or you have been lied to,
> the comment about being to hard was exactly the comment made, they wanted to
> push my program up to erd and keep the piece of crap as it was so no face
> would be lost.
> As a result of that they decided they wanted a bridge program, Ed said fine
> write it, I said fine, just do not call it technical, well since no other
> program came about I guess you can figure who preveiled in that one. My
> biggest mistake was letting Ed talk me into sending that imbeclie my disk.
>  You wrote
> 
>  >Now you have some facts instead of you misinfromed and
>  >willfull disregard of such. You will find my friend that
>  >I can back up every single staement I make. Feel free
>  >to check all of this out.
>  >
>  >Next time you think about jumping up way out of your
>  >level, at least try to have some facts, or in the
>  >alternative just listen.
> 

> I wil say pinhead you are determined , but there is one simple way to get to
> the bottom of this, whay don't you call up Ed Betts or Tony Zimos and ask
> them about Morrals contribution. Ask him whay the Austrailian version of the
> TSD instructor text was not autorized , what you have has never been seen by
> anyone at HQ, and it is my work form what you describe. Tell me did Paul
> leave in the part about doing a buddy check at the surface, then desceding to
> 10fsw and doing another check, then to 20fsw and another check, the , yes I
> am not joking to 30fsw and do another check, then if everthing is OK proceed
> with the dive plan. What about the fin pivot as a technical skill or
> hoovering, and mask removal, these are a sampling of the skills in the work
> Paul sent over what he had wrote I told Ed we had to trash it, and we did.
> What you have is NOT an ANDI text from what you describe.
> 
> At least though my dear pinhead, you did try to get some facts , but you are
> trying so hard to find me to be false and unfortunatley for you it's not
> happening. Call up the real HQ and get some facts, unless you can answer what
> reason Ed would have to pay me a large sum of money, and a contract for the
> work, I only sold him the exclusive rights to distribution not the book
> itself, he has obligations according to our contract. Why would he do this if
> what you say had any possibility of being true ? Good question isn't it ?
> Explain that one >>>
> 
> I think you should pick up the phone up, put it up to your pinhead and give
> them a call at HQ and get the facts.
> I would loive to see this work you are talking about, I will gladly purchase
> a copy , please tell me where I can get one.
>  I appreciate the information update, but friend you are on the wrong side of
> the fence, do some checking around ANDI HQ try them, go to the source.
> 

Tony-

I have not been following everything that has been going on here, but here is
my quick summation to the rest 
of the list. Birds of a feather flock together. If you hang around with slime
(Ed Betts/ANDI), you eventually 
become it. I got started with Betts in '89 and quickly got out, the man is a
jerk. Why are you still with 
them??? Hell, Ed Betts just CLOSED his retail ooperation after 25 years, not a
good sign since it is also the 
same location as ANDI HQ. HOw can he and you promotte ANDI as a benefit to the
dive retailer if you cannot 
keep the location at ANDI HQ open???? TOny, you are in over your head with the
people on this list. Stuart 
realized this, when are you.

Bob Raimo.
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