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To: us1rmc::deepreef@bi*.bi*.ha*.or* (Richard L. Pyle)
Subject: Re: Wrong reg @ depth
From: <heinzl@wi*.lk*.de*.co*>
Cc: Carl
Cc: G
Cc: Heinzl <heinzl%wile.enet.dec.com@wi*.lk*.de*.co*>
Cc: techdiver@opal.com
Cc: heinzl@wi*.lk*.de*.co*
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 94 09:21:13 -0400
Richard Pyle wrote

>Skin Diver Magazine, I suspect.

Oh, I totally forgot about this piece of ?!)!@(*&%!  I haven't looked
at it in quite some time.

>So...what are you saying?!?! .... That viewing the fishies isn't a
>legitimate purpose for tek diving?!?!? ;-> (Obligatory response from a
>tek-diving Ichthyologist).

Well, there's viewing fishes and there's VIEWING fishes, eh?
Hehe...  Good one, Rich!

I guess (being so closely tied to my computer) that I focused in too 
closely on the area of exposure that I have every day and forgot about the
dive shop sentiment/etc - go ahead - flame me - I deserve it :^)

As I already sent privately to someone else (none of his private email
is included, just my reponse which is good for all to see)...

As far as the local dive shops go, here is
what I've observed.

a) only a few (two) of the local dive shops have technical classes and
these are also the only two that offer Nitrox fills...  None of the
local shops (as of last time I checked) offer mix classes, although
there is local knowledge on where to get fills but we do not
pass it around easily.

Being an EMT, getting O2 is very easy, but there *are* shops that fill
O2 tanks without question as well...

b) the other dive shops almost unanimously talk bad about these shops
and technical diving.  I think this is much more of a sour grapes 
attitude because these other shops will draw customers that are
interested in technical diving even if they aren't tech divers
themselves so this will eventually force other shops to either
upgrade their own programs or face a possible erosion of the
customer base and in severe instances, face going out of business.

c) some of their concern is justified because with a nitrox fill
station just down the street, they must be worried about that
shop doing proper fills...  For example, if someone mistakenly
(or on purpose!) fills a non-nitrox bottle with nitrox, say Nitrox 
II (EAN36), it gets breathed down halfway and then the bottle is filled
at another shop,  there is now a 28.5% O2 mix in a non-nitrox
bottle...  Stupid things like this will happen, which is why developing
a standard, like the reverse DIN thread) for nitrox would be a good
thing, but it screws all the people that currently have Nitrox tanks
(me included).

d) also, a *great* deal of the diving around here can be done within
recreational limits so the market isn't really here for the heavy
duty tech stuff.  Some of the more interesting wrecks (especially
off of Rhode Island) are deeper (down to the 160-170' range) than rec 
limits and so planned deco dives must be done.  It's hard to find a
charter to take you to some of these places (but not impossible).

-Carl-

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