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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 96 19:00:30 UT
From: "Steve Merenkov" <Steve_Merenkov@ms*.co*>
To: "Bill Brooks" <seasport_scuba@su*.ne*>
Cc: "TechDiver" <techdiver@terra.net>
Subject: RE: Atlantis 1 EAN/Flow Combinations?
I agree with your observations about semi-closed units and the need for 
knowing what your breathing gas.

You suggested plumbing in an O2 sensor.  My O2 analyzer sensor (a teledyne) 
doesn't even recommend conditions of high humidity let alone being exposed to 
Salt Water at depth.  

Can you recommend some way to plum in a sensor that would be of any accuracy 
and still last more then one dive.  To the best of my knowledge I haven't seen 
anything that would work.

Buying a Closed Circuit is to tricky right know, and the Atlantis even with 
it's faults has proven to be a fairly safe unit when used within it's 
capabilities.

Any info would be appreciated!

Thanks for the response, Steve Merenkov,  PADI, IANTD & TDI Instructor
steve_merenkov@ms*.co*

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From:  Bill Brooks
Sent:  Tuesday, October 29, 1996 7:09 PM
To:  techdiver@terra.net
Subject:  Re: Atlantis 1 EAN/Flow Combinations?

Plumb in a sensor and you can verify your own work rate and the validity of
your calc's.

I would rather be diving a fully closed unit with dead electronics than a
semi without a sensor.  

A clogged orifice or reduction in supply pressure will reduce your flow.
Anyone who thinks that will never happen  has no business in water deeper
than his ankles.

If your flow declines you may have enough gas to maintain your buoyancy and
hear a flow of  bubbles, but be more than a little short on o2. 

A  fully closed unit  will  loose buoyancy as your ppo2 drops or gain
buoyancy as excess o2 is being added. 

Plumb in a sensor, without one you have to ask yourself  "Do you feel lucky?
Well do ya' punk?" 

Bill

PS It is ironic that people seem to have a fear of fully closed units and
think that semi's are volksbreathers when the potential for virtually
undetectable hypoxia with a semi is so much greater.


>I'm a TDI Instructor for the Atlantis, and I know there's a few others on 
this 
>list.  I know that by using the Atlantis
>rebreather formula you can go outside the normal 60, 50, 40, 32 EAN mixtures 
>to gain a balance
>between depth (MOD) and Dive time, (i.e. 138, 105, 75, and 51 Minutes).
>
>Can you share some of the combinations that you may have actually tried and 
>that work well.
>
>I'm looking for the best balance, I'd like to get say 138 Minutes, or say 3, 
>40 minute dives, with a MOD of 80 FSW. 
>
>This would require the 5.8LPM flow meter with say a mix of 45% EAN. At an ATA 

>of 1.6 a MOD of 84, and 
>a bag mix of about 21% depending on Workload LPM (approx. 1.75).
>
>Or say, two 45 minute dives with a MOD of 100FSW.  This would require EAN 40 
>with a flow of 7.6LPM again giving a bag mix of about 21% at 1.75LPM 
Workload.
>

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