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A.APPLEYARD WROTE: any chance of a list of names and prices... don't know about the prices... we couldn't get much information from the forum.. the general opinion of the rebreather manufacturers towards the technical community was that we are all "bungie jumpers"... just going for the thrill... i am working on a full report on the forum for interested partys, here is the stuff you probably really want; Rich & John, help me keep my info straight if you will please... Prisim Life support Systems LTD Mr. Peter Readey Trellugan Quarry, Landrake, Cornwall. PL125ES U.K. as rich posted you may try one of these for yourself this month at Hal Watts forty fathom grotto in florida.. ph 904-896-6294, the cost is around $ 150.00 for the two or three day course, will let you know more after the 24th as i'm scheduled to be there. at the forum hal was talking quite abit about the unit, said it was great and they had dived it alot at his place of business over the past few months.. at first he said $ 3,500, then after a few hours it was up to $ 5,000... think the $ 3,500 was wholesale or something. uk's diver mag may 94 had an article on the prism STATS: backpack utilise any twin cam band system ie wings, stab jacket, backpack absorbent canister carbon dioxided absorbent canister available in variable duration ie 2,4,6 hour durations. water tolerant design gas mixes gas bleed from cylinders by a class a regulator including a bypass addition valve. options dual mode mouthpiece for utilising the system in both open and closed modes. hydro static addition valve. co2 detector. cylinders variable cylinder configuration and size ie 2,3,4,6,9 ltr tec, single or doubles. counter lung front mounted counter lung with volume and buoyancy control. safety features on board computer for ppo2 level in counter lung. open circuit bail out facility using onboard gas hoses wide bore hosing to reduce breathing resistance. specification approximate weight 55lbs four 4 hour canister and twin 6 litre cylinders uk divers mag says 50 units are under production now at a cost of 2,00 to 2500 lbs i guess, don't have that symbol on my keyboard :) Oceanic said to have a unit on the horizon... uk diver mag says it was tested along with Readey's unit in november in a chamber to depts of 122m using helium\o2 mix, bottom time 24 minutes, total dive time 3hours. decompression tables: Kraken\carmellan tables developed by dr bill hamilton. the company claims to be working up thier dealer network with the aim of launching to the consumer in sept or dec... but being an oceanic dealer we haven't heard a word... promise !! the rest i don't know much about... here's the list: Drager Auf dem Baggersand 17 Postfach 150149 D-23523 Lubeck-Travemunde you might be surprised what these guys have up their sleeves.., but i wouldn't look for anything for a couple of years. U.S. Divers co inc 3323 west warner ave santa ana, ca 92704 904-769-2651 these guys didn't have a word to say, but it is rumored that they are in the game.. Interspiro AB box 116018110 lidingo sweden 46-8-636-5100 couldn't tell if they plan a unit or not... rich or john did you here anything on this one ?? Carleton technologies 3910 riga blvd. tampa, fl 33619 813-623-3711 got the impression that they planned to stick to their o2 units and that they were happy with their military and search and recovery customers... weren't looking at any other commerical applications... (were they looking at us as bungie jumpers too) Grand Bleu Bill Hamilton REsearch ltd 80 grove street tarrytown, ny 10591-4138 914-631-9194 bill flew in and out at the forum... wouldn't say a word about the companies plans... i called them directly in new york and they were quite rude about the whole thing... was told by two others in the industry that they got the same impression. (remember that we have *some* experience dealing with japanese business here in hawaii, i thought that might make a difference.. yeah right !!) Nocturna production Lars Muller c\o Furec Furnunasvaben 102a s-941 52 pitea sweden 46 0 911-964-64 these guys weren't talking either... got the impression that they were still in development stages suffering from money problems. they kept saying... when we get teh money (sure can relate to that). Tracy robinette 21612 surveyor circle huntington beach, ca 92564 714-379-9060 this man knows alot about the industry, may be able to answer all your questions, may also be able to find interested partys units that have been refurbished.. carmellen diving inc 14025 n. trangen loop road arlington, wa 98223 206-691-4259 others that i don't have info on: cis lunar, rich can give you that better that i fullerton sherwood.. they were there and seemed interested in the market.. said that they had some changes to make. ie most of their units were built to military specs.. too expensive for us common folk.. i got the impression that they were gearing up tho. OBS ??? Hyperbarie ??? i'm sure there's more and that i left out some stuff, it's 4am here and i gotta go... will try to add more later.. hopefully john and rich will have time to clean this all up.. hope it helps.. aloha, dennis
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