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To: "Philip Coetzee" <ZLAPSC@zo*.up*.ac*.za*>
Subject: Re[2]: Oxygen grades, acytlene, etc.etc
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Date: Wed, 22 Jun 94 13:04:31 PST
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Subject: Re: Oxygen grades, acytlene, etc.etc
Author:  "Philip Coetzee" <ZLAPSC@zo*.up*.ac*.za*> at ~NMFS-AFSC2-1
Date:    6/22/94 12:28 AM


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From: "Philip Coetzee" <ZLAPSC@zo*.up*.ac*.za*> 
Organization:  University of Port Elizabeth 
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Date:          Wed, 22 Jun 1994 09:11:05 GMT+0200 
Subject:       Re: Oxygen grades, acytlene, etc.etc 
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> Hmmmm...something a bit more scuba related.  I've seen a setup 
where a
> standard Sherwood Brut, cleaned in detergent and lubed with O2 safe 
> lube, was hooked to a constant flow welding regulator for 100%
> emergency O2 delivery on the surface.  This can be cheaply hooked to 
> quite a large tank....
> 
> -- 
> Nick Simicich - njs%scifi.uucp@uu*.uu*.ne* - njs@wa*.ib*.co* 
> --

Yes a Sherwood Brut works well (I'm not a shareholder in the 
company :-). I have rigged a S.Brut (octopus - to have 2 
available) to a medical oxygen bottle (we get them with DIN type 
fittings,etc.) for on ship/shore emergency treatment. The reason 
I chose the S.Brut is because it has a "pin" which can depress 
the purge button. If the regulator pressures are reset to 
produce a free-flow (with "pin" depressing the purge button) of 
approx. 13 l/min, the regulator can provide 100% (virtually) O2. 
What for? By inserting a "molded PVC tube" (20mm pipe, approx. 
60mm length) into the mouthpiece, the mouthpiece can then be 
fitted ("plugged in") to a the face mask of a standard AMBU 
Resuscitator Bag - thus giving the patient free flowing 100% O2. 
 This setup thus provides two treatment options: 1) breathing 
directly from the regulator (as per normal demand breathing) and 
2) breathing from a face mask, supplied by free flowing O2, e.g. 
for unconscious breathing patient, or one that may vomit. 

Philip



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Philip, I think that your scuba regulator/ambu bag rig is a good idea.  A 
similar device can be rigged up to a regulator second stage to permit 
ventilation of an unconcious person even when only air from a scuba tank is 
availible. It involves an oral/nasal mask that is fitted over the mouthpiece 
section of the regulator.  You must be very careful not to overinflate the 
victim's lungs, which will cause stomach distension (at least) and vomiting. The
advantage is that you can mechanically ventilate the victim with a minimum of 
equipment and avoid mouth to mouth. Not a panacea by any means, but it could be 
a good tool.

I am interested in exactly how you cleanse your equipment for O2 use.  Can you 
describe it in detail? Also, is any food grade silicone grease acceptable for 
O2, or must one use special O2 compatible grease (which is quite expensive)?--
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