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From: <gmiiii@in*.co*>
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 15:46:53 -0700
Subject: Re: pony bottle rigging
To: Richard Pyle <deepreef@bi*.bi*.Ha*.Or*>
Cc: techdiver@terra.net, cavers@ge*.co*

 Rich, if I were stupid enough to dive a piece of equipment that requirted five 
bailouts, I guess it would make little difference how they were mounted. Carry 
on. Farb's bottle attatched to his MK 15.5 is a little different than what is 
being perceived here. By the way, we carry stages, run long distances quickly, 
so maybe we know something about how to carry gas, just maybe. Ponies are for 
strokes - a dual port manifold has the redundance built in. Like I said, do it 
right or stay out of the water. Discussing the best ways to do it wrong just 
fucks up anyone trying to learn, and encourages them to waste money. 

   Rich, uou need to point out that you are diving an experimental rebreather 
 and that even you are not nuts enought to dive it without a copy of every gas 
you will need to complete the dive- a real advantage

   Wreck diving and cave diving require low drag , high effeiciency, and easy 
access - poney "tamers" and other strokery are for the guys back in the dive 
shops to sell you and then laugh after you walk out the door looking like a 
stroke. Trust me, I've been there done that.

     

On Wed, 28 Aug 1996, Richard Pyle <deepreef@bi*.bi*.Ha*.Or*> wrote:
>
>A couple of the messages you missed on this thread were from me and farb, 
>pointing out that most "real" diving (i.e., not in holes in the ground) 
>does require ponies of some sort, and the method of attachment (the real 
>subject of the thread) is a critical issue.  My last several dives past 
>400 feet involved *only* ponies - five of them - three of which came back 
>up to the surface full or nearly full.
>
>Rich
>
>On Wed, 28 Aug 1996 gmiiii@in*.co* wrote:
>
>> 
>>  Mike, that line about the "clue bar" is awesome. BTW, ponies are no part of 
a 
>> serious dive rig, and are much like carrying an extra can of gasoline on the 
>> front seat of your car. I have no idea what anyone else has said about 
ponies, I 
>> just read this heading when I saw your name. Only a stroke would use a pony 
>> bottle, and the correct way to take little deco bottles is to rig them like
a 
>> stage and carry them that way, so as not to get yourself hung up , but you 
can't 
>> teach pigs to sing, so lety them keep grunting. Hows things in Washington? 
Any 
>> new bands out there? 
>> 
>> George M. Irvine III
>> DIR WKPP
>> 1400 SE 11 ST Ft Lauderdale, FL 33316
>> 954-493-6655 FAX 6698
>> Email gmiiii@in*.co*
>> 
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>
>Richard Pyle
>deepreef@bi*.bi*.ha*.or*
>*******************************************************************
>"WHATEVER happens to you when you willingly go underwater is
>COMPLETELY and ENTIRELY your own responsibility! If you cannot
>accept this responsibility, stay out of the water!"
>*******************************************************************
>
>

George M. Irvine III
DIR WKPP
1400 SE 11 ST Ft Lauderdale, FL 33316
954-493-6655 FAX 6698
Email gmiiii@in*.co*

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